I propose we use this thread as a starting point for discussions concerning the topic of Secession.
Whereby collectively we determine if it is possible, and if it is, how would we go about accomplishing this goal.
Yeah... China would just love that move!
Guaranteed.
What happens to average Americans when the banks shut down and a lifetime of savings evaporates.
Yup,it’s time.The fact that the Rats have controlled this country’s education system for 50 years has brought us to this point.I want a divorce. I’ll leave my home and move to North Carolina.
Impossible, we are comingled.
My son and I were just discussing secession last night, but in the context of the first Civil War. I find it interesting that the Constitution did not include a process for a state to leave the United States. It is discussed in the Federalist Papers, I believe.
We have de facto secession now.
The Constitution has been nullified.
We didn’t leave the Union, the Union left us.
The rule of law no longer applies in the “Union”.
Everything else is just tactics.
I leave those to the experts on such matters...
After the court dismissed the Texas suit, which was completely constitutional in scope, the states supporting should simply split.
There is no alternative left. NONE.
It looks like a bad idea.
Texas GOP chair statement on SCOTUS decision: “Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the Constitution.”
Well, it’s that or the globalist oligarchy/CCP.
Don’t know how it would be accomplished but I have about as much desire to be an American now as the apostle Paul wanted to be a Roman.
Heck, in Michigan taking my mask off in the store would secede me just fine...to jail.
Maybe unmasking would be a start.
Sounds reasonable to me.
I see it already happening with the migration of ppl from Blue states to Red ones. Shortly, Blue states will be wards of the federal government, loaded with welfare leeches, thieves and bums. Stand back and watch as they collapse.
Don’t shoot up forts in the harbor for a start.
PING
It has to start with a financial solution. States to declare themselves and citizens no longer under rule of feds. All taxes being paid to feds now to be paid to the state and state will assume financial duties.... like SS, Medicare etc. States to establish banking system for its citizens. Corporate business in the state, like Walmart etc, that doesn’t accept new rules and guidelines will lose its facilities etc.
It’s beyond question in both sides’ interest to negotiate the divorce. Imagine the greatest war machine in history divided on itself in one geographic area.
To negotiate: military assets, nukes, gold, the dollar/reserve currency status, debt / bond payment, social security/Medicare commitments, use of ports, migration, defense obligations overseas, accepting rogue countiies (well, give us blue-staters some hope)...
Secession
Sounds good in the exact moment of optimal frustration.
Subsequent to that, it’s a no-win option.
What’s the goal. The goal is to retain some semblance of the
nation we love, but more importantly it has to continue to be
a nation that is viable.
If states secede, they do so without military, nuclear
weapons, or any sector of our nation’s five branches of the
military.
So we go our own way, and the party that is deemed to have
won the election, becomes the default owner of all we left
behind.
Can we defend the free world? No. We would be doing good
to defend ourselves if the federal government we just opted
to disassociate with didn’t agree to let us go.
The United States we left behind, would have half as many
citizens. It would be a nation without a clue how to lead.
It would be a nation filled with seething people dying to
kill everyone who didn’t agree with them.
Everyone with half a clue, would be a part of the new entity,
but what would that be worth in the short or long run?
We would in effect set up our own autonomous zones. Would
they be recognized? Would we have to fight to hold our
ground? Would our military be used against us? Would we
be able to hold out for more than a few months?
While I don’t know the answers to all these questions, they
are still questions we would have to face.
It would not be a bed of roses, or even a bed we could sleep
in when we grow weary.
I don’t see this as a great option.
If this nation crumbles, the Chinese can simply walk in and
take over the place with those who claim to have won this
election tossing down palm fronds to welcome them in.
Why China would be doing a great service to the United States,
that we left behind. Just imagine how the Leftists would be
forever indebted to them.