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Flubros and Flubras! Day 258 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 8 December 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 12/07/2020 5:07:55 AM PST by impimp

It’s just the flu, bro.

So many people over 65 have learned a lot about heath and nutrition as a result of this Coronavirus fauxdemic. The increase in vitamin D levels alone may lead to an increase in longevity. This may go down as the first “pandemic” that fuels an increase in longevity, as opposed to a drop in life expectancy. This might not kick in right away, unfortunately, as governments are busy making it difficult for people to receive their routine health care as a result of Coronavirus lockdown rules.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3912884/posts

Article above is somewhat related to the longevity views in previous paragraph.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8938339/Vitamin-D-Omega-3-supplements-help-elderly-avoid-Covid-19-infection.html

Dailymail is trash - but they are getting the word out about nutrition and Coronavirus. The key point here is they are getting good nutrition advice out - the Coronavirus part is secondary. Things that prevent Coronavirus also prevent other causes of death, and this is what will help increase longevity over time.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; getbackontopic; top2flupandemic
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To: impimp

Some doctors say it isn’t COVID killing people, it is seasonal influenza; doing this year, what it does at this time every year.


21 posted on 12/07/2020 8:27:32 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: who knows what evil?

Gotta link to the CDC Flu counter?
Has it hit 200,000 per day yet?


22 posted on 12/07/2020 8:29:54 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: daniel1212

CFR is way less than 2%. Divide by 10 or more.


23 posted on 12/07/2020 8:36:32 AM PST by impimp ( )
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“It is +173,861 NEW Positive Tests, not “cases”...”

How many of those “cases” were over 35 PCR cycles?

I am so glad I have not been tested, under the circumstances. With all the cv and rv colds I have had in my life, I would not want to have some idiot telling me that my sinus troubles are actually cv19.


24 posted on 12/07/2020 9:15:42 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“You’d need to take a moving average of daily new deaths”

And then correct for the cv19 “cases” which are something else, such as a head cold, or or the flu, or candidiasis, or a bacterial infection, or non-viral pneumonia, or tuberculosis...?


25 posted on 12/07/2020 9:20:32 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Gotta link to the CDC Flu counter?

Hell, no...CDC is NOT a credible source.

26 posted on 12/07/2020 9:22:28 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: impimp

This is now officially my favorite daily FR thread.

Can we continue even if cv19 goes away? Which it never will.


27 posted on 12/07/2020 9:22:43 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: who knows what evil?

“Hell, no...CDC is NOT a credible source.”

+1,000,000,000,000


28 posted on 12/07/2020 9:26:53 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Ditto 👆


29 posted on 12/07/2020 9:56:14 AM PST by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: SecAmndmt

We are pretty reliably posted around 7AM - you want on the ping list? I also fear that this will never end too.


30 posted on 12/07/2020 10:06:06 AM PST by impimp ( )
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Maybe you could hop off your lawn mower and do something about it.


31 posted on 12/07/2020 10:35:24 AM PST by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Kozak

I don’t get the lawn mower connection but I AM doing something about it.
I don’t comply, I tell others not to comply and I our local sheriff is on board with individual non-compliance.

Now...what isn’t surprising is that when called to action, you get someone else to do it.

No wonder your overweight.


32 posted on 12/07/2020 10:39:02 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

it’s just the flu, bro.


33 posted on 12/07/2020 10:49:18 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something)
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To: SecAmndmt
"And then correct for the cv19 “cases” which are something else, such as a head cold, or or the flu, or candidiasis, or a bacterial infection, or non-viral pneumonia, or tuberculosis...?"

Anyone with a positive PCR test 100% has SARS-CoV-2 RNA in their body and specifically at the test site (typically in the nasal cavity, but sometimes also at the back of the throat). That test will not come up positive for any other virus or bacteria. Not for a cold, not for the flu, and not for anything besides SARS-CoV-2.

The biggest problems with the PCR tests are 1) false negatives. If you get tested too quickly after infection, the swab may not be able to pick anything up. If that's the case, you can get a negative test (no COVID-19) and wind up testing positive days later. The other problem is that in some individuals who've had COVID-19, viral proteins remain present within the system for days or even weeks after the infection has been cleared. So the individual DOES have the genetic material present (thus a positive PCR test), but they are no longer dealing with an active infection (and thus are almost certainly not infectious).

But if you test positive, SARS-CoV-2 is present in your body.

34 posted on 12/07/2020 1:31:17 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: impimp

The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is defined as the number of deaths divided by the number of cases. For COVID-19 in the US, current number of deaths is 290,107. Current number of cases is 15,318,189. 290,107 divided by 15,318,189 is 0.0189387 or 1.9%. However, CFR has very limited usefulness and changes rapidly without any change to the disease itself because it’s subject to biases related to how many are being tested, how many asymptomatic or untested mildly symptomatic cases there are, etc. If you’re missing a lot of cases, CFR will go up. If you suddenly start testing more and catching more mild cases, CFR goes down. The CFR for COVID-19 has fluctuated between 1.9% and 5% throughout the course of the pandemic, typically settling between 2-3%.

The Infection Fatality Rate is the actual ratio of infections and deaths. This gets calculated by taking various studies of serology testing, situations of blanket mass-testing, etc. to calculate the actual number of infections. You can then use that to tease out the true death rate.

Every study I’ve seen since May has said that the IFR for COVID-19 is 0.65%. Hardly a world-ender, but also significant enough to care about.

For comparison, while the CFR for COVID-19 has mostly stayed between 2-3%, the CFR for seasonal flu is 0.1%.


35 posted on 12/07/2020 1:39:55 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“But if you test positive, SARS-CoV-2 is present in your body.”

False. The test picks up all kinds of other fragments. How was the system calibrated when, at the time the test was designed, there was not an isolated sample of covid19 available. Is there one now? Show us the proof.


36 posted on 12/07/2020 2:26:26 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: impimp

Please.


37 posted on 12/07/2020 2:27:23 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: impimp

PCT cycles info

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/09/coronavirus-cases-plummet-when-pcr-tests-are-adjusted/


38 posted on 12/07/2020 2:30:02 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

The genetic code for SARS-CoV-2 was released to the world on January 11th. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/01/china-releases-genetic-data-new-coronavirus-now-deadly

Samples were isolated from the airway epithelial cells of infected patients in Wuhan China in December 2019 and the new pathogen was sequenced shortly thereafter. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7180649/

The NCBI genome ID is 86693: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genome/?term=86693

How do you create a test that looks for specific genetic sequences when you don’t have a sample of the virus itself? Well, you look at the genetic sequences that distinguish the virus from all others and you design a test to look for them. It’s pretty straightforward.


39 posted on 12/07/2020 2:39:07 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: impimp

PCR cycles info

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/09/coronavirus-cases-plummet-when-pcr-tests-are-adjusted/


40 posted on 12/07/2020 2:54:23 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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