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Posted on 11/28/2020 9:48:47 AM PST by Towed_Jumper
For the second time in a decade, demand for ammunition has outstripped supply in the United States. The first ammunition bubble was from 2012 to 2017. The next started in 2020.
Ammunition manufacturers have increased their capacity. In the face of increased demand, it has not been enough. Ammunition plants are running 24/7 to make profits while demand is high. Shortages still exist in the United States. Common calibers have disappeared from store shelves. Prices have risen. Panic buying and purchasing for private stockpiles have increased.
Those who purchased a stockpile in the interval between ammunition bubbles from 2017 to 2020 are considered wise and foresighted. At one point in October of 2018, .22 rimfire ammunition was available at 2.5 cents per round. How much ammunition is being produced and purchased in the United States market?
During the .22 rimfire bubble, the productive capacity was increased from about 4 billion rimfire rounds to 5 billion rimfire rounds per year. The National Shooting Sports Foundation has estimated total ammunition produced for the United States market in 2017 at 8.1 billion rounds. In 2018, the total ammunition production for the United States was estimated at 8.7 billion rounds. The numbers for 2019 should be published in December of 2020.
A reasonable extrapolation puts the amount of ammunition produced for the United States market at somewhat over 9 billion rounds, of which 5 billion are rimfire and 4 billion are centerfire rifle, pistol, and shotgun rounds in 2020.
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IIRC, Hornady got started in the ammo business by swaging lead into spent .22 LR cases to make jacketed .223 bullets.
I don’t know if Lake City manufactures bullets. I think they just assemble components into ammo. Hornady actually makes bullets.
As many have said, occasionally the ammo gods smile. Over the years I have been setting aside some ammo for the “just in case” possibilities. One weekend a lady at my church asked me if I could help her move some junk out of her garage. Mostly it was old yard tools, rusty mower, broken stuff. We uncovered an ancient aluminum ice chest. Thinking it would be light, I was surprised when it wouldn’t move. When I opened it, the smell made my eyes burn. It was FULL of colorful boxes and metal tins of .22s. From the boxes and brands, they were mostly from the 50s. Copper shells, not brass. She said those were left over when her husband closed his hardware store in 1965. She said if I could use them, take them. I did. Some friends that collect such things as old cartridge boxes were quite happy to accept almost untouched, full boxes, and some excellent trades were made. I might have put a few aside for just in case, too. They still shoot mighty fine.
What a score on your part! I’ve shot a lot of old .22s that had oxidized lead bullets on them...not a problem to shoot.
There is no such thing as enough ammunition.
Let's go to the video tape.
This is what the liberals will do with cowards who are too afraid to even say they have guns much less use them. I was hoping FReepers of all people had the guts to take a stand and say, "Damned straight I've got guns, and I ain't afraid to us them!"
Your thesis is liberals will blow the brains out of "cowards" who don't tell everyone and anyone that they have firearms.
When asked, effectively, "how can you call people 'cowards' for not revealing that they own firearms, under a pseudonym?" you say that cowardice differs from prudence.
I agree with your point, on the differences between the two.
You also proved my point, CodeToad.
Thank you.
>>I’m holding on to mine. I already know how to shoot a rifle.<<
I don’t get out to practice allot due to the ammo shortages, but recently went out to a friends ranch.
I’ve not shot my long range rifle in a couple of years. Placed some clays out about 150 yrds on a berm and was taking out the centers. I’m good! lol
It’s like riding a bike.
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I have a bunch of .22 that I can dip into for a little practice, but I'm saving the 9 mm for the real deal.
“They generally don’t know who has the goods.”
If you bought from an FFL’s store, they know you have firearms.
If your ID was scanned to buy ammo, they know...
If you have a CCW/CHL, they know...
I have several Class III firearms and suppressors, so they know...
bfl
Now it’s $800 for a case of PMC 5.56 green tip 62 gr. Or more.
I heard things were good
In Arizona!?!
.38/.357 is almost
A Buck a Round now.
Every show rolled out of there with 3 or 4 1000-round cases of most interesting (to me) calibers for about $50-to-$60 each (Except the 30-06 and .50BMG which were a little more pricey)...
So all my grandchildren and great grandchildren now have enough ammo to sustain them through the darkness that lies ahead...
They know what you have, and what you don’t.
If you get ads for ammo, the .gov knows what you have also.
A family member in the business joked they they probably know your stash better than your spouse does.
“ Many gun owners are on the horns of a dilemma: Do I shoot up my precious ammo training at the range, or do I hold onto it for CWII?”
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Get laser training bullets to save both ammo and money. Not a 100% substitute fir going to the range, but better than shooting off precious ammo and WAY better than not training.
“ Reloading components are still reasonably priced. A tad higher than before, maybe a 25% increase in prices over the past 10 years. Primers that were $30 are now $40. Bullets that were $35/100 are now $45/100.”
Really? Take a lookee at what completed sales for small pistol primers are going for:
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=Small%20pistol%20primers
“ Prior to the War Against Trump, there were already trillions of rounds in the possession of the 100+ million law-abiding human citizens. Lots of Ammo from WW-II days is still suitable for use.”
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“ The Leftists hate arithmetic.”
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Perhaps, then, we should use arithmetic ourselves? Taking that 8.1 billion rounds produced in 2017, rounded to 8 billion for ease if calculation, it would take 125 years of accumulating ammo - without any being used, lost or decaying into ineffectiveness - to get to 1 trillion rounds. Not trillions (plural), and that assumes 8 billion rounds/ year of production for the full 125 years - when 125 years ago we about 75 million people, less than 1/4 of our present population. IOW, we do NOT have trillions of rounds of ammunition.
Here’s a more reasonable and realistic calculation: if you assume that there are 500 million guns and 1,000 rounds per gun, that’s 500 billion rounds. That takes into account the large number of people who likely have only a couple boxes of ammo for their gun, and also the guys that have 10,000 rounds per gun.
Note that 500 billion rounds is still a LOT, and should give anyone contemplating a confiscation a case of the Hersey Squirts serious enough to require a box of Imodium every single day.
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