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State Legislatures could name Electors?
Twitter ^ | Nov 5 | Luke Ford

Posted on 11/05/2020 9:31:41 AM PST by RandFan

@lukeford

Bud: Trump does not need the Courts to declare anything. He merely needs enough legal disputes, to run the clock into December. The Constitution says in case of election disputes that bar automatic determination of Electors, the State Legislatures will determine the respective State Electors. The State Legislatures of AZ, PA, MI are all GOP, they can name Electors.

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To: RandFan; All

“They” know that, too. Too much opportunity to mess with it, and too much time to get ready.

Send a note to your friendly Senator, if you have one. Tell them to insist on FEDERAL MARSHALLS with search warrants of these counting centers for fraudulent ballots.


42 posted on 11/05/2020 10:17:38 AM PST by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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To: wetickel

All that is needed to prevent abuse is an ELECTION DAY...not an “election week” or “election month” or more....


43 posted on 11/05/2020 10:17:46 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: RandFan

I also sent my chart to Mark Levin and Dan Bongino on Parler


44 posted on 11/05/2020 10:17:50 AM PST by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: DoodleBob

Arizona looks like it would be the problem . . .


45 posted on 11/05/2020 10:21:15 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: RandFan
My opinion is that modern FBI tech can find ballots which don’t each have telltale evidence of being handled by a unique voter.

If you gave the FBI those ballot dumps, and if you watched them closely and assured them that there were test cases in the stack which they had better jolly well find you could IMHO conclusively detect mass-produced Biden ballots.


46 posted on 11/05/2020 10:25:28 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: RandFan; All

State legislatures have always had the authority and power to name electors autonomously. However, if they opt for elections via statute, the Feds have enormous influence on the process.

And there’s no way a legislature can overturn a “legal” vote and appoint electors contrary to the outcome of that vote.

No way.


47 posted on 11/05/2020 10:28:26 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: RandFan
One possibility is that one or two states may decide NOT to send electors for either candidate -- so neither one has the required 270 EVs.

That means the election goes to the House in a state-by-state election, where I believe the GOP controls more states.

48 posted on 11/05/2020 10:32:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I don’t mean to be cold, but I’m willing to suffer the disenfranchisement of AZ’s Republicans (and the attendant 11 Electoral Votes) if that means a successful slaying of the disenfranchisement of WI, MI, and PA’s Republicans (and the attendant 10, 16, and 20 Electoral Votes, respectively).


49 posted on 11/05/2020 10:38:09 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: BigEdLB

Dr. Corsi is apparently talking about this:

https://twitter.com/jerome_corsi/status/1324421247388844035

Haven’t watched yet...


50 posted on 11/05/2020 10:43:45 AM PST by RandFan (3C)
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To: RandFan

Wow. Constitutionally-speaking, this is absolutely a valid strategy. No one could stop it.
But is it a good idea? Don’t know. It would be the Mother of All Bombs, a first strike nuclear bomb, an order of magnitude beyond stacking the Supreme Court. I can’t even imagine the drama that would ensue if we go this route. Can you imagine the insane amount of pressure on some dude representing a rural district in PA or WI? The bribery? Establishing a precedent that could make voting for a President meaningless? Suddenly, state assemblies become the most powerful entities on the planet? Imagine the money flowing in to their campaigns. Billions! Mind-boggling.
On the other hand, a President Kamala would be disastrous in every way imaginable.
This decision is in every respect the equivalent of Truman deciding whether or not to drop the atomic bombs. No doubt. Not dropping them would’ve caused another 2 m. deaths including US soldiers and Japanese soldiers and civilians. Dropping them caused a lot of civilian deaths and opened the nuclear genie bottle and resultant arms race. It changed the course of the future. And for the record, I think Truman made the right call. He had to do it.
But going nuclear in the Presidential Election would be even more momentous. I think it could rip the USA apart. But maybe we have to do it. I’m leaning this direction, for sure. Kamala set free seems like an existential threat, too.
But...damn. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.


51 posted on 11/05/2020 10:44:16 AM PST by 2big2fail
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To: gw-ington

Very similar to total US map. Big cities trend freebies Dem.

California and NY give Dems a big head start Re presidential election

Electoral college was set up try to balance all citizens


52 posted on 11/05/2020 10:47:45 AM PST by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: patriotspride
Electoral college was set up try to balance all citizens

Yep. Founding Fathers debated pure democracy and the alternatives. Decided on a constitutional democratic republic (including EC), or however our governmental structure should be accurately described. Great decision. Don't want pure democracy with majority mob rule running everything until eternity. Maybe there's a better theoretical governmental structure out there but I've never seen one.

In contrast, the crazy Dems are infatuated with an insane mix of socialism, fascism, authoritarianism, Marxism, totalitarianism, and Communism.

53 posted on 11/05/2020 11:00:36 AM PST by gw-ington
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To: RandFan
@lukeford Bud: Trump does not need the Courts to declare anything. He merely needs enough legal disputes, to run the clock into December. The Constitution says in case of election disputes that bar automatic determination of Electors, the State Legislatures will determine the respective State Electors. The State Legislatures of AZ, PA, MI are all GOP, they can name Electors.

Ye it is interesting but counting on the weak Willies in the House to overturn an election, with is what it would be called, is far, far too optimistic.

54 posted on 11/05/2020 11:10:21 AM PST by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: Mariner

Man, you are always on the wrong side of an argument.

The individual state legislatures can determine what is and what is not legal for determining the electors for President. If they determine that the vote was conducted fraudulently they can discard the popular vote and send their own slate of electors. Florida was prepared to do just that in 2000.


55 posted on 11/05/2020 11:38:55 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Oklahoma

“The individual state legislatures can determine what is and what is not legal for determining the electors for President. “

Aye, they can.

However, if they choose an election by the people, the Feds have all kinds of jurisdiction.

And they would not be able to change the method of selecting the electors after an election has occurred.

Bullshit not withstanding.


56 posted on 11/05/2020 11:42:34 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

A disputed, criminally influenced election can be overturned by the state legislature and should be.

It may be left to the House of Representatives which set of electors would be recognized, but it would be better than rolling over for the democrats.


57 posted on 11/05/2020 2:48:09 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Mariner

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-state-legislatures-swing-states-may-end-saving-union-work/


58 posted on 11/05/2020 2:51:37 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Oklahoma

“A disputed, criminally influenced election can be overturned by the state legislature and should be.”

If criminal adjustment to the election can be proven in court, and if it can be proven to have a material effect on the outcome, then a state legislature is likely to carry the day at USSC. IF they have the nerve (disenfranchised millions of voters etc.) to pass such a resolution against their own machine. They have political realities to deal with and need a majority.

“Disputed” carries no weight.

The key here is to stop the corrupt counting. Now.

Now.


59 posted on 11/05/2020 2:56:58 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Oklahoma

Morris is correct.

IF they take action before the ballots are counted.

But nobody should expect any government entity in the US to toss out hundreds of thousands of ballots anywhere under any circumstances once they have been counted.

“Stop counting now” is precedent that has been established.

And so far, no court and no state legislature has given such an order.


60 posted on 11/05/2020 3:05:02 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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