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To: sodpoodle

The words “separation of church and state” may not be in the constitution but it EXPLICITLY says the government will not create or run with any religion. (”Shall make no law respecting the establishment of Religion”)

So- the government is meant to be separate from the church. Although those exact words are not in there.


5 posted on 09/30/2020 4:04:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K

This was to protect the church, not the government. Surely you can see that? Otherwise we’d be in danger of what Islamic states have. Worship like this, or die.


7 posted on 09/30/2020 4:15:44 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: Mr. K

The words “respecting the establishment” beg the question as to whether that means what has already been established, or what may be established. Obviously the aim is not to have self-government that is sectarian in nature, but to use this phrase as a way to refrain from implementing any reference to God or the content of the Ten Commandments is to abuse ourselves and our posterity.


8 posted on 09/30/2020 4:20:56 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (I'd rather have a rude President than a polite tyrant.)
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To: Mr. K

Sorry, faulty conclusion.

Primarily, the words “separation of church and state” are not stated in the Bill of Rights.

Secondly, the absence of law does not prohibit related expression.

>> So, the government is meant to be separate from the church

Definitively incorrect. Furthermore, what is the definition of “government”?

BTW, good morning ;)


9 posted on 09/30/2020 4:21:39 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mr. K

Actually, the exact words you quote are in the US Consitution along with some you did not want to quote:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

It’s clear enough to me what is being prohibited, without your poor translations. These are protections OF religion.


11 posted on 09/30/2020 4:23:54 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Mr. K

Please tell me what the phrase “run with religion” means, and where it is explicitly mentioned in the Constitution or its amendments.


20 posted on 09/30/2020 5:14:01 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Mr. K

Depemds on what seperate means. The government is suppose to not pass religious laws or regulate religion. They can however praise God and declare an official day of prayer..while they cant mandate anybody pray or regulate how they pray. In short, the be openly thankful to God and pray etc, but cant pass laws about religion. So the words “separation of church and state” are not true in all the senses modern Americans sometimes think. Holding as a “self evident” “truth” that God exists and is why governments should respect the rights of all is foundational to our governments principals....thougb it certainly involves what modern Americans would call a religious point of view.


23 posted on 09/30/2020 5:31:37 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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