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Posted on 09/30/2020 3:56:30 AM PDT by sodpoodle

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One Nation, under God.
1 posted on 09/30/2020 3:56:30 AM PDT by sodpoodle
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To: sodpoodle

Amen.


2 posted on 09/30/2020 4:00:02 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: sodpoodle

Thank you. I did not know this information.


3 posted on 09/30/2020 4:02:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: sodpoodle

In the mean time, leftists are plotting to topple it.


4 posted on 09/30/2020 4:03:23 AM PDT by beef (Use a VPN, use Tor, and get a shortwave radio. Oh, and ACAB- All Commies Are Bastards)
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To: sodpoodle

The words “separation of church and state” may not be in the constitution but it EXPLICITLY says the government will not create or run with any religion. (”Shall make no law respecting the establishment of Religion”)

So- the government is meant to be separate from the church. Although those exact words are not in there.


5 posted on 09/30/2020 4:04:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: sodpoodle

I’m surprised no one (ACLU, the nut who had s beef about his daughter saying the pledge of allegiance or that creep atheist Ron Reagan) has brought a lawsuit to remove the saying.


6 posted on 09/30/2020 4:12:06 AM PDT by ZagFan
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To: Mr. K

This was to protect the church, not the government. Surely you can see that? Otherwise we’d be in danger of what Islamic states have. Worship like this, or die.


7 posted on 09/30/2020 4:15:44 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: Mr. K

The words “respecting the establishment” beg the question as to whether that means what has already been established, or what may be established. Obviously the aim is not to have self-government that is sectarian in nature, but to use this phrase as a way to refrain from implementing any reference to God or the content of the Ten Commandments is to abuse ourselves and our posterity.


8 posted on 09/30/2020 4:20:56 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (I'd rather have a rude President than a polite tyrant.)
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To: Mr. K

Sorry, faulty conclusion.

Primarily, the words “separation of church and state” are not stated in the Bill of Rights.

Secondly, the absence of law does not prohibit related expression.

>> So, the government is meant to be separate from the church

Definitively incorrect. Furthermore, what is the definition of “government”?

BTW, good morning ;)


9 posted on 09/30/2020 4:21:39 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: sodpoodle
"..that Thou wilt incline the hearts of the citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to government.."

Uuuhh. Hmmmm. Somehow that just doesn't "sound" right to me.

Amiright or is this just from the result of my public school education?

10 posted on 09/30/2020 4:22:26 AM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: Mr. K

Actually, the exact words you quote are in the US Consitution along with some you did not want to quote:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

It’s clear enough to me what is being prohibited, without your poor translations. These are protections OF religion.


11 posted on 09/30/2020 4:23:54 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: CopperTop

I saw that and didn’t like it either.


12 posted on 09/30/2020 4:25:38 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I agree with your interpretation.

The people who talk about “separation of church and state” seem to usually mean that churches are “on their own” and not protected by the government (to protect a religious viewpoint, the thinking goes, would be to show favoritism. Therefore, for example, public display of the Ten Commandments is bad).

But I think the opposite reading if more accurate. Religion is protected from government and people may freely exercise their faith without some law or some judge coming along and declaring it to be “offensive” and banned from the public square.


13 posted on 09/30/2020 4:32:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: CopperTop

I think he was praying that the People would tolerate a government.

They had recently had revolution to get rid of one, and I think such a prayer might be reasonable.

Of course, today we have a well-established government with many very comfortable on the teat. Such a phrase rubs us the wrong way.

At least, that is my take on it. :)


14 posted on 09/30/2020 4:35:11 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: sodpoodle
"... a perfect cross imposed upon the landscape ... A cross you ask? Why a cross?"

15 posted on 09/30/2020 4:45:13 AM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

When referring to the “Separation” issue, you must remember what the Founders had just escaped.

In England, the Government and the Church of England are intertwined. The British Monarch IS the Head of their Church.

The Founders wanted no part of this concept in their new country and took steps to prevent it by preventing the government from establishing a religious body.

More people should know history.


16 posted on 09/30/2020 4:46:31 AM PDT by CaptainKip
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To: beef
In the mean time, leftists are plotting to topple it.

Perhaps you are referring to the dead-in-spirit children of the god of this world, who is the prince of the power of the air, who desires to achieve equality and dominance--through violence--of the God of The Heavens and His Incarnate Son the Prince of Peace?

17 posted on 09/30/2020 5:08:20 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Drumbo
This is FAKE
The West arm and the South tip do not exist.

18 posted on 09/30/2020 5:11:28 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Gene Eric
I am confused- are you saying the words "separation of church and state" ARE in the Constitution?

here is the first amendment in its entirely:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The word separation is no where in there.

I grant you that is what it implies.

Wait.. what were we talking about again?

:)

19 posted on 09/30/2020 5:13:58 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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Please tell me what the phrase “run with religion” means, and where it is explicitly mentioned in the Constitution or its amendments.


20 posted on 09/30/2020 5:14:01 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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