Posted on 09/29/2020 8:42:36 AM PDT by rickmichaels
The Trump administration has asked the military how quickly it would be able to pull nuclear weapons out of storage and load them onto bombers and submarines should an arms control treaty with Russian be allowed to expire, a report suggests.
Made to the US strategic Command in Nebraska, the request is said to be part of a strategy to pressure Moscow into renegotiating the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) before the US presidential election, three sources told Politico.
The Trump administration reportedly believes that making the request outlines how serious they are about letting the agreement lapse should Russia fail to meet their demands.
The sources said Trump’s team is leery that Moscow is attempting to prolong the talks beyond the November vote in the hope that Democratic nominee Joe Biden wins the election. They believe that Biden's proposals for New START renewal may be deemed more favorable by Russia.
‘It’s a clear signal that the costs for not negotiating before the election are going to go up,’ one of the sources, speaking on the grounds of anonymity, told Politico.
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I don’t think that we have any nuclear artillery rounds for our 155mm and 8 inch guns left. The great old 8 inch gun was deleted from the Army inventory shortly after the end of the Cold War and with the MLRS being its replacement. And the 155mm and 8 inch nuke rounds were ordered destroyed by President G. H. W. Bush. I remember reading news reports about those rounds we had in Germany being brought back to the States for dismantling/destruction.
The scene in which Uhura and Chekov question passersby about the location of nuclear vessels was filmed with a hidden camera. However, the people with whom Koenig and Nichols speak were extras hired off the street for that day’s shooting and, despite legends to the contrary, knew they were being filmed. In an interview with StarTrek.com, Layla Sarakalo, the extra who said, “I don’t know if I know the answer to that... I think it’s across the bay, in Alameda,” stated that after her car was impounded because she missed the warnings to move it for the filming, she approached the assistant director about appearing with the other extras, hoping to be paid enough to get her car out of impoundment. She had been told to act naturally, and so she answered them and the filmmakers kept her response in the film, though she had to be inducted into the Screen Actors Guild in order for her lines to be kept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_IV:_The_Voyage_Home
Great Star Trek trivia!................
Yep, it’s like the tanks I served on in Germany. We had all the (58?) main gun rounds loaded in the tanks at all times. If the Russians came across the border, we could have been out of the motor pool and rolling towards the hills ready to fight it out about an hour after calling an alert. We didn’t keep a full load of 7.62 - an M-1 can hold about 10,00 rounds.
Now if there weren’t any main gun rounds loaded, it would probably take at least 4-8 hours to get all the rounds loaded onto a battalion of tanks. If there were no hiccups.
“If I remember during the days of SAC ground alerts, the weapons were already preloaded onto planes. By the 1980’s, you can see B-52G’s and H’s with AGM-86B cruise missiles pre-loaded on the wing pylons on ground alert.”
Your correct. The Alert Force was preloaded and cocked for immediate launch. That was during the cold war. Since then remaining bombers of the wing have to be armed and Prepared with crypto “operational Orders” and fueled.
That takes time.
During my time at the 509th Bomb wing we had the FB-111’s armed with SRAM(A)’s and regular vertical dropped nukes.
the 52’s had a much larger weapons load than our FB-111’s but loading the 111’s still took considerable time.
Since I have been out I wonder how many armament specialist available in each wing to do the job that’s required
To be honest, I believe there is a greater threat from China than Russia
IIRC the START treaty allows each side to keep additional warheads in long term storage, dismounted from delivery systems. This request from President Trump sounds like he is asking how long it will take to move these warheads out to operational units and have them ready for use.
US Boomers do not go out un-loaded. Which of course is neither confirmed nor denied... if even asked about.
This post is idiotic on it’s face. START changed the MIRV’d warhead numbers on SLBMs and others.
This is opinion, and AFAIK. Not cleared beyond opinion and hearsay.
There’s a guy still in prison for photos of the launch tubes, I think. Hannity never got him released— I think.
What a garbage piece of news, even for the MSM. But I suppose the average 20-something writing for the newspaper is not likely to know much about, well, much of anything. The nukes are already on the submarines. They always are. For that matter, land-based nukes in the US could deliver their payload faster than a Domino’s pizza.
Who leaked this and why is it a story?
1978-1982, GFAFB (if you have to ask, don’t) 321st Strategic Missile Wing.
The number of drills, inspections and run out the door at 0330 in the morning to stage out in the backwoods of North Dakota were epic. I have never been so cold in my life.
But they could get all of the B-52s in the air within 45 minutes (if memory doesn’t fail me).
Trump should have received this intel before he was sworn in and got his Q-clearance from DOE/NNSA and the subsequent nuclear briefings every week (i.e, 3 minutemans are down for maint, we are 90% ready, SSBN about to sail, Russia is moving some mobile IRBMs in scheduled maneuvers, Delta IV SSBN has warmed up, etc).
I find this being public information at all a bit puzzling.
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Some negotiations should be done in private and some should be done in public.
On August 3, 1958, the U.S. nuclear submarine Nautilus accomplishes the first undersea voyage to the geographic North Pole. It was made public so that the old Soviet Union would know we could “hide” our nuclear weapons where they could not find them.
Going public is President Trump laying cards on the table. Russian does not want to renew the treaty, then the US will prepare to meet the threat.
My guess is a new treaty will be signed.
If there is a war, it will be Russia and China against the United States.
Do not take the Russkie fake conservatism and religiosity as a real thing. Russian government actively aids both extreme, anti-American Neo-Nazi movements AND Communist movements across the world.
me too
It would be a dereliction of duty if he did not ask such an pertinent question. If Biden is in charge it would never even cross his feeble mind.
backwoods?
Your North Dakota was different than the North Dakota I knew.
Backwoods?
You are correct, but stating we were sitting in a perfectly flat field of sunflowers which probably extended 10 miles in every direction doesn’t have the same flair.
Flat. flat and more flat, with the occasional wind break made of trees on the edges of the field. But still flat, except for Turtle Creek.
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