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Up to 90 per cent of people diagnosed with coronavirus may not be carrying enough of it to infect anyone else, study finds as experts say tests are too sensitive
Daily Mail ^ | August 30, 2020 | Marlene Lenthang

Posted on 08/30/2020 12:49:58 PM PDT by rickmichaels

Up to 90 percent of people tested for COVID-19 in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada in July carried barely any traces of the virus and it could be because today's tests are 'too sensitive', experts say.

Health experts say PCR testing - the most widely used diagnostic test for COVID-19 in the US - are too sensitive and need to be adjusted to rule out people who have insignificant amounts of the virus in their systems because they're likely not contagious.

Today the PCR test, which provides a yes or no answer if a patient is infected, doesn't say how much of the virus a patient has in their body.

PCR tests analyze genetic matter from the virus in cycles and today's tests typically take 37 or 40 cycles, but experts say this is too high because it detects very small amounts of the virus that don't pose a risk.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; chinavirustests; infectious; scamdemic; shamedic; viralload
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To: Drew68

You are still an idiot and your half assed explanation does your position no good.

Trump and everyone else had no experience with this disease and did the best they could do under unknown circumstances. You, On the other hand are a genius that apparently knows everything about this disease with what, a grade school education?

Quit while you are still behind. You don’t have the brains to talk your way out of this hole.


21 posted on 08/30/2020 2:09:16 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: righttackle44

The virus is real. It is unfortunate that some get. sry sick and die from it. The truth is some get very sick and die from all viruses/infectious diseases. The problem is shutting down our economy and isolating people behind masks and social distancing does nothing tto change that fact or the number of people that will eventually die of the disease. It does however harm far more people than the disease ever could


22 posted on 08/30/2020 2:10:52 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: metmom
The more the narrative about COVID keeps falling apart, the worse the dems look for keeping the lockdowns going.

COVID is the only thing the Dems have on Trump. They desperately want to make this a COVID election. They need to keep it going. If we take the masks off and get back to work, get the kids back to school, all that's left are riots in the streets and these aren't helping the Democrats at all.

23 posted on 08/30/2020 2:20:55 PM PDT by Drew68 (Fiery but mostly peaceful.)
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To: Okeydoker

Take it easy. It’s not quite a sham. But we’ve collectively over-reacted big time. I’ve lost 2 family members to Covid. My uncle, sick with terminal bile duct cancer. He was in hospice. He caught Covid and died at 74.

My great uncle, 94, in renal failure. He was refusing dialysis. He caught Covid and died. Both of these deaths are part of Massachusett’s official Covid case counts. But did they really die of Covid?

I know 10 other people who’ve had it. 9 had mild to no symptoms, one other was sick with a fever for 10 days but recovered. Never had to go to the hospital.

So? Sham? Not quite. But yeah, a massive overreactions that has screwed our economy


24 posted on 08/30/2020 2:23:41 PM PDT by strider44
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To: Mom MD

True


25 posted on 08/30/2020 2:24:07 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Drew68

True


26 posted on 08/30/2020 2:24:25 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: mrsmith

The FDA has dropped their reporting requirement for positive home quickie test results, so that little problem has been sorted.


27 posted on 08/30/2020 2:25:47 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: rickmichaels

DUUUHHHH...!
COVID “1984” WHO BENEFITS
https://youtu.be/RPbgTbQXY9I
COVID “1984” THE REAL NUMBERS
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities
ORWELL WOULD BE SO PLEASED!


28 posted on 08/30/2020 2:26:56 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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To: strider44

There is a big difference between an overreaction and a sham.

Sham means phony, fake, non existent.

If an idiot uses a word that does not apply well then I guess he has to take the brickbats. Words mean things. Especially when some moron says that the deaths of 177000 Americans is fake, phony or non existent.

So, no, I’m not apologizing at all.


29 posted on 08/30/2020 2:27:35 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Okeydoker

60 to 80 thousand people die every year in this country from the flu.

This year apparently nobody has died from the flu, only the KungFlu.


30 posted on 08/30/2020 2:32:19 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: mewzilla

Thanks, glad to hear it. Was quite a reach to demand that. Bizarre, even.
The other problem was the FDA demanding way too much accuracy and sensitivity, way above what is needed for their public health use.
Rapid tests aren’t for diagnosis, but for surveillance.
(That sounds contradictory, but I’ve seen explanations that had me nodding my head.)


31 posted on 08/30/2020 2:40:25 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: shelterguy

Guess what, 177000 MORE people died this year of the COVID virus than otherwise would have died.

Flu season starts soon. No doubt the flu virus will cause more deaths.


32 posted on 08/30/2020 2:45:08 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Okeydoker

I’m sure that if not the majority of those who died of covid would have died this year or something else. When I met with my financial planner this summer he insisted on doing it on zoom rather than in person because I work in a hospital. He informed me he had 5 covid widows in his practice. i the. asked him how many of those people would have loved out the year if they didn’t get covid. His answer? none of them. They were all dying of something else before they got covid


33 posted on 08/30/2020 2:55:00 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

I personally know TWO people who have been hospitalized from Covid. Both survived. Both are elderly, obese, and one had a kidney transplant a year ago.

I know dozens of people who are out of work, have lost a business, or are in fear of losing their homes. This virus is real. Our fear of it has been manufactured. Bigger mistake ever in dealing with a global illness .


34 posted on 08/30/2020 2:55:18 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: cyberstoic
The covid has a 99.97 Percent survivability rate for the rest of us.

You do realize this means 1M dead Americans, right?

35 posted on 08/30/2020 3:05:16 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Okeydoker

“”””Guess what, 177000 MORE people died this year of the COVID virus than otherwise would have died.”””””

I don’t believe that number for a minute.

My wife had a friend who died and it was listed as a KungFlu death.

The woman had cancer and was on her last days at the time.

There is no doubt this is some nasty stuff but the numbers are not accurate.


36 posted on 08/30/2020 3:11:29 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Mom MD

Whether COVID is a primary or secondary cause of death is not significant. If the onset of the virus hastened death it is significant. Your conclusion that “the majority would have died this year “ anyway seems unsupported by any evidence.

Since co morbidity plays the primary role in the virus mortality it is quite obvious that morbiditities like diabetes, asthma, heart, etc do not guarantee death this year as you well know. And in fact many people with these chronic conditions live long old lives. Unless of course they get caught up with the COVID virus.

I assume your MD refers to being a physician. I would not expect a science based person to make these type of unsupported speculative guesses.


37 posted on 08/30/2020 3:20:41 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: semimojo

check your math on this, it means 100k


38 posted on 08/30/2020 3:27:54 PM PDT by Jeff Vader
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To: DallasBiff

...the chicomm’s believed all of the fake news reports that half of Americans were very obese and unleashed the virus, thinking they could kill half of the American population.
______________________
I wonder how much truth there is in your sarcasm?

Did Pelosi and her minions make sure Gerry Nadler had HCQ?

They call POTUS fat and unfit. Were they planning on him succumbing to COVID? Is that why they had fits when he touted HCQ protocol and even admitted to taking it?

Were they planning on using the obesity scare to starve the people under house arrest later in their scenario?

It has been 8 months of botched attempts to kill as many people as possible, along with the economy.


39 posted on 08/30/2020 3:32:02 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Okeydoker

You are the one who doesn’t get it. 177,000 people died with covid antibodies... of those, the vast majority were over 80 years old and had an average of 2.5 life threatening co-morbiditys and a median age of 82 years old. Roughly 40%^ of those deaths were caused by 5 democratic governors moving their covid-19 patients into old folks homes. Whether this was done maliciously or negligently remains to be seen, but it is looking like those that died strictly from covid was less than 10k and the mask nonsense was done because that was what we did when the flu of 1918 ... wear masks and shelter in place. Also, the numbers were completely off on the totals of actual deaths because stats didn’t have uniform rules for reporting and tracking casees and deaths. Also there were false positives from the testing and the entire thing was highly politicized... overall deaths did not increase 177k from last year...


40 posted on 08/30/2020 3:33:37 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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