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Pre-existing immunity against the new Coronavirus in the human population.
Swiss Policy Reseach ^
| 08/01/2020
Posted on 08/01/2020 8:16:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Pre-existing immunity against the new coronavirus
At the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, it was assumed that no immunity against the new coronavirus existed in the population. This was one of the main reasons behind the initial strategy of “flattening the curve” by introducing stay-at-home orders.
From March and April onwards, however, the first studies showed that a considerable part of the population already had a certain immunity to the new virus, acquired through contact with earlier coronaviruses (common cold viruses).
Further important studies on this topic were published in July:
- A new study from Germany came to the conclusion that up to 81% of people who have not yet had contact with the new coronavirus already have cross-reactive T-cells and thus a certain background immunity. This confirms earlier studies on T-cell immunity.
- In addition, a British study found that up to 60% of children and adolescents and about 6% of adults already have cross-reactive antibodies against the new coronavirus, which were created by contact with previous coronaviruses. This is probably another important aspect in explaining the very low rate of disease in children and adolescents.
- In the case of Singapore, a study published in the scientific journal Nature concluded that people who contracted SARS-1 in 2002/2003 still had T-cells that were reactive against the new SARS-2 coronavirus 17 years later. In addition, the researchers found cross-reactive T-cells, which were produced by contact with other, partly unknown coronaviruses, in about half of the people who had neither contracted SARS-1 nor SARS-2. The researchers suspect that the different distribution of such coronaviruses and T-cells may help explain why some countries are less affected than others by the new corona virus, regardless of the political and medical measures taken.
- Analysts have previously pointed out that many Pacific countries, and especially China’s neighbouring countries, have so far had very low Covid death rates, regardless of their population structure (young or old) and the measures taken (with or without lockdown, mass tests, masks, etc.). A possible explanation for this could be the spread of earlier coronaviruses.
- Harvard immunologist Michael Mina explained that the “drop in antibody concentration” after Covid disease, dramatized by some media, was “perfectly normal” and “textbook”. The body ensures long-term immunity through T-cells and memory cells in the bone marrow, which can quickly produce new antibodies when needed.
See also: Immunological studies on the new coronavirus
Other medical updates
Wuhan: A Harvard modelling study in the scientific journal Nature came to the conclusion that even in the Covid epicentre Wuhan, up to 87% of the infections went unnoticed, i.e. remained without symptoms or mild. This means that the Covid19 lethality (IFR) in Wuhan may also fall to about 0.1% or below. The Nature study confirms an earlier Japanese study in the journal BMC Medicine, which calculated an IFR of 0.12% for Wuhan already back in March.
However, Chinese authorities couldn’t yet know this comparatively low lethality in January and February and therefore built additional clinics at short notice, many of which eventually remained mostly unused. Only the systematic test results from South Korea and the cruise ship Diamond Princess showed that the lethality of the new corona virus in the general population is indeed lower than initially feared.
Italy: The Italian health authority ISS published a new analysis of the cause of death in about 5000 corona patients. According to this analysis, Covid was the direct cause of death in 89% of the cases. In 11%, other diseases such as heart problems, cancer or dementia were the primary cause of death. Covid was the sole cause of death in 28% of cases. It is also known that in about 4% of the deaths, no medical preconditions were present.
Covid mortality: In May, the US health authority CDC published a cautious “best estimate” of covid mortality (IFR) of 0.26% (assuming 35% asymptomatic infections). In July, a new IFR of 0.65% was published. However, this new value is not based on own calculations or new studies, but on a meta-study in which the existing literature was simply searched for all previous IFR values.
Thus, the meta-study mainly consists of previous modelling studies as well as “raw IFR values”, which are much too high compared to the actual, population-based IFR values from antibody studies. With few exceptions, the real IFR values are between 0.1% and 0.4%, and when mucosal and cellular immunity are taken into account, they are approximately 0.1% or less.
However, the virus has spread much faster than anticipated, thus causing a temporarilly high death rate in some places, especially if nursing homes and hospitals got affected.
Non-infectious virus fragments: The U.S. CDC points out that in most Covid patients, infectious virus particles are no longer detectable ten to fifteen days after the first symptoms. However, non-infectious virus fragments (RNA) can still be found up to three months after the first symptoms. This is likely to be a significant problem with regard to PCR tests, as many people who have long since ceased to be infectious still test positive, triggering far-reaching tracing and quarantine false-alarms.
Deaths with or by or without coronavirus: In England and some other countries it has been reported that all deceased persons who tested positive for the new coronavirus since the beginning of the year were counted as Covid deaths – regardless of the time of the test, a possible recovery, and the actual cause of death. In the US state of Colorado, it was found that about 10% of deaths were with but not from coronavirus. In other US states, further cases of “corona deaths” became known that in reality were test-positive homicide victims and motorcycle accidents.
Children and schools
It has been known since March that the risk of disease and transmission in children is minimal in the case of Covid19. The main reason for this is probably a pre-existing immunity due to frequent contact with previous coronaviruses (i.e. cold viruses). There was and is therefore no medical reason for the closure of primary schools, kindergartens and day-care centres and for special protective measures in schools.
In the meantime, further studies on this issue have been published:
- The British epidemiologist Professor Mark Woolhouse stated that there is not a single confirmed case of infection of a teacher by a pupil worldwide.
- Tracing pioneer Iceland found “not a single case where a child under 10 infected their parents.”
- A joint report from Sweden (without primary school closure) and Finland (with primary school closure) concluded that there was no difference in infection rates among children in the two countries.
- In the USA, three times more children up to 14 years of age have died of influenza than of Covid-19 (101 versus 31) since the beginning of the year, according to the CDC.
- A Canadian study found that most of the children with “Kawasaki-like” inflammatory symptoms had no corona infection at all. The disease in children is “very, very rare”, the researchers said.
- A German study came to the conclusion that children act epidemiologically “like brake blocks” and slow down the spread of the new corona virus.
Critical expert opinions
- The German virologist Hendrik Streeck advocates a pragmatic approach to the new coronavirus and targeted measures for people at high risk. According to Streeck, the long-term suppression of the virus and the hope for a possible vaccine are not sensible strategies.
- Professor Carl Heneghan, Director of the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, explains in an interview that there is still no evidence for the effectiveness of masks in the general population. A permanent suppression strategy like the one in New Zealand is not sensible and causes high damage in the long term. The lethality (IFR) of Covid-19 is about 0.1% to 0.3% and is thus comparable to previous flu epidemics and pandemics.
- The Swedish chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell explains in an interview that eradication of the virus is not an option. In Sweden, the infections slowed down considerably even without a lockdown, and daily deaths now are close to zero. The evidence for the benefit of masks is still “very weak” and they might even be counterproductive. An introduction at this point in time would make no sense. The lethality of Covid-19 is between 0.1% and 0.5% and does not “radically differ” from influenza.
- The epidemiologist and systems biologist Professor Francois Balloux, Director of the British UCL Genetics Institute, explains in an article that Covid-19 is comparable to a pandemic (but not seasonal) influenza. The main difference is the age-risk distribution: while Covid-19 is mainly dangerous for older people, a pandemic influenza is also life-threatening for younger people and children. Professor Balloux points out that the “Russian influenza pandemic” of 1889 may have been triggered by the coronavirus OC-43, which is now considered one of the four typical cold viruses.
- The Swiss chief physician for infectiology, Dr. Pietro Vernazza, pleads for a “controlled natural immunization” of society as an alternative to the “eradication strategy”. In most cases, Covid-19 is mild and the actual mortality rate is about 0.1%, which is in the range of a severe influenza. The Swedes “did nothing wrong” with their strategy, according to Vernazza.
- The former director of the Institute of Immunology at the University of Bern, Professor Beda Stadler, also pleads for a controlled spread of the virus. The danger of the virus had been overestimated due to the false assumption of a lack of immunity. Professor Stadler is critical of compulsory masks and mass tests. Stadler, who is now emeritus, explains that many younger immunologists no longer dare to speak out publicly on the subject due to the extreme polarisation of the debate by politics and the media.
On the other hand, Professor Karin Mölling, the former head of the Department of Virology at the University of Zurich and one of the earliest critical voices on corona measures, has now partly changed her opinion: Due to the sometimes serious lung damage, the virus should not be underestimated and containment measures are important.
The clinical picture of Covid-19
The lower-than-expected lethality of Covid-19 should not hide the fact that the new coronavirus, due to its efficient use of the human ACE2 cell receptor, in some cases can lead to severe disease with complications in the lung, the vascular and nervous systems and other organs, some of which can persist for months.
While it is true that most of these symptoms can also occur in severe influenza (including thrombosis the temporary loss of the sense of smell), they are indeed more frequent and more pronounced in the novel Covid-19 disease.
In addition, even apparently “mild” disease (without hospitalization) can in some cases lead to protracted complications with breathing problems, fatigue or other symptoms. The US CDC came to the conclusion that after one month, about one third of the “mild” cases still showed such symptoms. Even in the 18 to 34-year-olds without preconditions, about 20% still had after-effects.
On the positive side, researchers at a German clinic recently reported good chances of recovery: “We can see that the lungs can heal well, even in patients who have had three weeks of intensive care”. After three months, 20% of the intensive care patients had healthy lungs again, and in the remaining patients a clear regeneration was visible.
Nevertheless, the primary goal should be to avoid a progression of the disease.
TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; immunity; kungflu; preexisting; tcells; update
To: SeekAndFind
I am sure we will hear nothing but crickets from the Fearpers
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posted on
08/01/2020 8:20:29 PM PDT
by
gas_dr
(Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
To: SeekAndFind
I figure I am in that 81%. However, I will continue taking my prophylactic placebo.
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posted on
08/01/2020 8:22:27 PM PDT
by
Cold Heart
(Legalize Hydroxychloroquine)
To: Cold Heart
RE: I will continue taking my prophylactic placebo.
What on earth is a prophylactic placebo?
To: gas_dr
This is good news... lots of good news.
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posted on
08/01/2020 8:50:36 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu - Bari Weiss - Bernell Trammell - John Kass)
To: SeekAndFind
I get that reaction a lot. When I tell that to my nurse friends they start laughing before the last syllable comes out.
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posted on
08/01/2020 8:57:24 PM PDT
by
Cold Heart
(Legalize Hydroxychloroquine)
To: Cold Heart
😂
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posted on
08/01/2020 8:58:00 PM PDT
by
Jane Long
(Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
To: Cold Heart
The power of the human mind can be a powerful thing. In Psychiatry there are many studies of Hypochondriacs minds willing themselves to ill health simply from their phobias and resultant dread. Conversely, the opposite is true.
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posted on
08/01/2020 9:08:34 PM PDT
by
ocrp1982
To: SeekAndFind; Cold Heart
prophylactic placebo?
That might be a number of things, including the prophylactic / cure the President told us about, HCQ.
Or perhaps Quercetin from Amazon, or your local pharmacy...
If you have an anti Trump Governor.
~Easy
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posted on
08/01/2020 9:20:29 PM PDT
by
EasySt
(Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
To: EasySt
HCQ is supposed to be a prophylactic, not a placebo.
To: SeekAndFind
And if you bought into the EneMedia narrative and Cavutos rant,
its supposed to kill you...
;-)
And with all the enemedia backed Fauci types to tell us the evidence for HCQ is only anecdotal, while pushing flawed faked science to paint it
badly, one might be forgiven for considering it to be at the very least,
a good placebo.
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posted on
08/01/2020 9:35:54 PM PDT
by
EasySt
(Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
To: SeekAndFind
So getting 6-8 colds a year while I have littles running around is a good thing?
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posted on
08/01/2020 10:00:55 PM PDT
by
31R1O
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
08/01/2020 10:03:59 PM PDT
by
Mase
(Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
To: SeekAndFind
"What on earth is a prophylactic placebo?"
A prophylactic that looks good and seems to work but really doesn't do anything. Like a mask.
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posted on
08/02/2020 4:24:04 AM PDT
by
Former Proud Canadian
(Islam---At war with Western Civilization for 1400 years)
To: SeekAndFind
What on earth is a prophylactic placebo?The reason all the "Whose the Daddy?" shows exist
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posted on
08/02/2020 4:39:12 AM PDT
by
Covenantor
(We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
To: SeekAndFind
I think there are people out there who carry the virus, but are effectively immune from it.
So what do we do with those folks? Typhoid Toms, so to speak?
The ENTIRE EPISODE has been blown so far out of proportion by a news-hungry media and a vaccine-desirous CDC. Toss in a bunch of Trump haters and you got the perfect storm!
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posted on
08/02/2020 4:45:16 AM PDT
by
djf
(Better to be anecdotally alive than clinically dead!)
To: SeekAndFind
My nephew was sick with the Covid for about two weeks while his live in fiance never contracted it. A guy on my senior softball team's two sons contracted it a couple weeks ago but he never did........
There were over 48 million cases of the 2017-18 flu during that epidemic but over 280 million people never contracted it, including me.......
What irks me the most is all the wide spread testing that is now occurring, leading to the spike in reported infections while nothing is being said about the numbers who are actually asymptomatic...........
To: Mase
Harvard immunologist Michael Mina explained that the drop in antibody concentration after Covid disease, dramatized by some media, was perfectly normal and textbook. The body ensures long-term immunity through T-cells and memory cells in the bone marrow, which can quickly produce new antibodies when needed. ...
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posted on
08/02/2020 8:09:24 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu - Bari Weiss .- Bernell Trammell - John Kass)
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