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Brass vs. Steel Cased Ammo – An Epic Torture Test
Lucky Gunner Labs ^ | 9/21/19 | Andrew

Posted on 07/26/2020 5:03:33 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s

Brass vs. Steel Cased Ammo Test Summary

We acquired four identical Bushmaster AR-15 rifles. We chose the Bushmaster MOE Series AR-15 because it’s a widely available, affordable, and mass-market. Our team didn’t want something too cheap and of lower quality or something too expensive and of high quality since our goal is to help the most number of people.

We acquired 10,000 rounds each of the following ammunition (new production):

Federal 55gr – Brass-Cased – Copper Jacket
Wolf 55gr FMJ – Steel-Cased with Polymer Coating – Bi-Metal Jacket (steel and copper)
55gr FMJ – Steel-Cased with Polymer Coating – Bi-Metal Jacket (steel and copper)
Brown Bear 55gr FMJ – Steel-Cased with Lacquer
Coating – Bi-Metal Jacket (steel and copper)

We paired each ammunition type with a specific Bushmaster AR-15 and then fired all 10,000 rounds of it through that particular carbine (except for Tula; more on that below)

We systematically observed and tested various things, including (more details below):

At the start: accuracy, velocity, chamber and gas port pressures, chamber cast

After 2,000 rounds: accuracy, velocity
At the 4,000 round mark: accuracy, velocity
After 5,000 rounds: throat erosion, chamber cast
At the 6,000 round mark: accuracy, velocity
After 8,000 rounds: accuracy, velocity
After 10,000 rounds: accuracy, velocity, chamber and gas port pressures, throat erosion, extractor wear, chamber cast, barrel wear

We logged every malfunction of every rifle-ammo combination

The rifles were cleaned according to a preset schedule and temperatures were monitored and kept within acceptable limits (more below)

We sectioned the barrels and otherwise made unique observations after the test was complete

(Excerpt) Read more at luckygunner.com ...


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; guns; shooting
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This is fascinating. The thoroughness, the methodology, the precision are all impressive.

If you've ever wondered or debated the usage of brass vs steel, you will want to read the whole thing.

1 posted on 07/26/2020 5:03:33 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s
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To: ChildOfThe60s

It was annoying to have to reformat to get it readable.

I see that I missed TULA in the ammo list but it’s there in the article.


2 posted on 07/26/2020 5:05:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....your weren't really there..)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
For the readers, TULA is between Wolf and Brown bear in the table posted:

Federal 55gr – Brass-Cased – Copper Jacket
Wolf 55gr FMJ – Steel-Cased with Polymer Coating – Bi-Metal Jacket (steel and copper)
TULA 55gr FMJ – Steel-Cased with Polymer Coating – Bi-Metal Jacket (steel and copper)
Brown Bear 55gr FMJ – Steel-Cased with Lacquer Coating – Bi-Metal Jacket (steel and copper)

Happens to all of us...

3 posted on 07/26/2020 5:13:46 PM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

All I know is my Bushmaster AR15 does NOT like Wolf coated steel ammo.

I don’t know why.


4 posted on 07/26/2020 5:23:48 PM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Great article , Thank you for Posting...good read.


5 posted on 07/26/2020 5:24:26 PM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Good article. I’ve always wondered what the difference is.


6 posted on 07/26/2020 5:31:57 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I love studies like these.
Glad they used a chorno to measure velocity.

NATO/Israeli ammo almost always has the most consistent results with 5.56 ammo.

I shoot Ak’s so my guns eat everything up no matter what. Steel, Brass, lacquer etc.


7 posted on 07/26/2020 5:32:06 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: bk1000

Let me guess, feed/extraction issues?


8 posted on 07/26/2020 5:37:30 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Very good!


9 posted on 07/26/2020 5:39:06 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: ChildOfThe60s

My Bushmaster AR-15 is my workhorse. It has proven to be a reliable workhorse as well. Glad to see them perform well in this test.

My Bushmaster AR-10 in 308 gave me fits with cases getting stuck in the ejection port, until an Army vet gunsmith/armorer fixed the problem in less than 5 minutes by polishing excess bluing out of the chamber.

Flawless since then.

They were great rifles that sadly didn’t float; lost in the lake.


10 posted on 07/26/2020 5:39:28 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
shoot Ak’s so my guns eat everything up no matter what. Steel, Brass, lacquer etc.

There is something to be said for a little *less* precision. LOL
Suppose you had to gather all the people in your neighborhood, most of whom probably have none to minimal experience with firearms, and give each a battle rifle to defend the area in a disaster.

And then you had to leave it to them to keep the rifle operational, would you give them an AK or an AR?

11 posted on 07/26/2020 5:39:41 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....your weren't really there..)
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I’m not surprised at the outcome. My limited experience with steel case ammo + a lot of literature I’ve read leads to one almost intuitive conclusion. Brass, being softer, fire forms to the chamber and in doing so, helps clean any residue left in the chamber from the preceding round. Steel, being harder than brass, allows some fouling of the chamber with each round. Not as big a deal with a slightly tapered charge like a 7.62x39, but with a straight walled case like a 5.56, it becomes more problematic.


12 posted on 07/26/2020 5:41:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Operationally the AK, for short range engagements especially. My AK loves Wolf ammo, but now my ARs will only feed brass.


13 posted on 07/26/2020 5:43:07 PM PDT by datura
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To: Spktyr
Let me guess, feed/extraction issues?

After reading this I figure I will order an upgraded, high performance extractor spring. Cheap and easy to replace. I've certainly put more than 2,500 rounds through my Rock River Arms AR-15.

14 posted on 07/26/2020 5:44:02 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....your weren't really there..)
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15 posted on 07/26/2020 5:44:45 PM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Great informative article, thanks!


16 posted on 07/26/2020 5:45:30 PM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Lacquer coated ammo always jams my Mosins.


17 posted on 07/26/2020 5:46:23 PM PDT by dynachrome (The panic will end, the tyranny will not)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Lucky Gunner has some of the best gun content on the web.


18 posted on 07/26/2020 5:48:00 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Thanks.

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19 posted on 07/26/2020 5:48:40 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

That was great! Thanks for finding and sharing this.


20 posted on 07/26/2020 5:48:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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