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14,000-Year-Old Poop Could Hint at Oldest Known Human Settlement in North America
ScienceAlert ^ | Tuesday, July 21, 2020 | David Nield

Posted on 07/21/2020 11:42:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The question of when human settlers first arrived in North America is not an easy one to answer, but archaeologists now have another piece of useful evidence to work from - a new study of 14,000-year-old poop.

Found in the well-known Paisley Caves in Oregon, the faeces add to the growing consensus that human history on the continent pre-dates the Clovis culture thought to have been established about 11,500 years ago.

While the DNA of this dried-out dung has been analysed before, the latest study takes a different tack, looking for traces of lipids - the fatty biological materials, including cholesterol, that are found in the guts of humans and animals.

"The question of when and how people first settled the Americas has been a subject of intense debate," says geoarchaeologist Lisa-Marie Shillito from Newcastle University in the UK.

"By using a different approach, we have been able to demonstrate that there were pre-Clovis populations present in the area of the Great Basin and resolve this debate once and for all."

While the ancient poop samples - coprolites, to give their technical name - had been dated using radiocarbon techniques, there had been some debate over whether they were actually from humans. A lot of DNA contamination and sediment shift can happen across the course of 14,000 years.

Contamination is much less likely to occur during analysis of lipids, which preserve better than DNA; taken with previous findings, the new research suggests these faeces are indeed human in origin, and that there were in fact people living here all that time ago.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: coprolites; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; lisamarieshillito; newcastleu; oregon; paisleycave; paisleycaves; turd
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To: Texas Eagle
Humans have supposedly been on this planet for billions of years...

Not quite. Most ancient known ancestors less than a quarter billion. People as we know them, maybe a few hundred thousand. We've been here as God's creation for a blink of an eye compared to His cosmos.

41 posted on 07/21/2020 1:04:11 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Paisley Caves isn’t anywhere near Portland. It’s near, well, Paisley. I doubt the animals will come near it. Paisley is in the sane part of the state.


42 posted on 07/21/2020 2:22:04 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I actually think of that at times when I pick up some random something else along w/ the usual in a doggie bag.

Future archeologists will be really confused as to 21st century rituals involving dog feces, used Kleenex and, say, a beer bottle cap, all nicely preserved together in a blue plastic bag.


43 posted on 07/21/2020 2:23:57 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: nicollo

“Unknown ceremony.”

They spin some pretty good stories.


44 posted on 07/21/2020 2:28:02 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SunkenCiv

If they keep looking they might find the remains of a 14000 year old moccasin with sh*t on it.


45 posted on 07/21/2020 2:40:00 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: colorado tanker

Well, sure, if you’re talking about physical distance.

I’m talking about entertainment.

Portland and Paisley are very close in terms of entertainment venues.


46 posted on 07/21/2020 2:49:38 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: SunkenCiv

The evidence for pre-clovis human presence in the Americas continues to build. Of course, science changes her mind very slowly and only after numerous hissy fits. I was around when Geology finally embraced Continential Drift, long after the evidence was self-evident.

This evidence looks solid, pun not intended. I hope that the lab doesn’t discover evidence of very old goldfish crackers


47 posted on 07/21/2020 3:03:42 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SunkenCiv

the discovery of a sabretooth tiger in the cave may have caused a sudden deposit ?


48 posted on 07/21/2020 3:44:08 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: centurion316
Oyster crackers maybe. :^)

49 posted on 07/21/2020 3:48:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Rurudyne

There is a well known fruit cake bakery in Corsicana, Texas, that ships all over the world. I maintain it hasn’t baked a fruit cake in decades, just recycling returns.


50 posted on 07/21/2020 3:55:20 PM PDT by MisterArtery
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To: Jewbacca

lol


51 posted on 07/21/2020 3:59:20 PM PDT by Trillian
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