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The question no one is asking: How many people died of regular flu this year?
The Fop

Posted on 06/21/2020 11:50:08 AM PDT by The Fop

Back in the early part of the year, prior to the COVID-19 lockdowns, a lot of people, including the likes of Dr. Fauci and Anderson Cooper, told us we should be more worried about the seasonal flu than COVID-19.

Typically, around 55,000 Americans die every year from seasonal flu. There are all these websites out there tracking COVID-19 deaths. They tell us how many people died each day from COVID-19 in each State and each country. Currently over 122,000 people have supposedly died in America from COVID-19.

So are there another 55,000 people who died from the seasonal flu in addition to the 122,000 who supposedly from COVID-19? Are there any charts that can tell us? Is anyone keeping track? Is anyone even asking?

Well here is my guesstimate. I'd guess that the typical average of 55,000 Americans died of the flu this year. Another 30,000 elderly people died of natural causes, but their deaths were falsely recorded as being caused by COVID-19. And maybe another 40,000 actually died from COVID-19.

I'm not a doctor, and I'm open to someone completely disproving my guesstimate. Please, somebody, show me some hard data on seasonal flu deaths this year. Because I haven't heard one word about the seasonal flu, ever since the locKdowns began. AND I SMELL A RAT!


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To: Bell Bouy II
Is just going to be a new part of life.

Only for the sheep.

21 posted on 06/21/2020 12:12:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: RightField
I think the regular flu season only goes through April or May, though, so the comparisons might not hold up now.
That said, I still think any numbers are cooked to make COVID look as horrible as possible.
I don't think we'll ever know the truth.
22 posted on 06/21/2020 12:14:41 PM PDT by RightField
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To: The Fop

George Washington died of COVID. But who cares? He was an old white slave owner.


23 posted on 06/21/2020 12:18:51 PM PDT by albie
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To: The Fop

And, how many of the regular flu deaths were mislabeled COVID19 for political purposes?


24 posted on 06/21/2020 12:21:02 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: The Fop

It’s truly a miracle! Not a single person has died from the regular flu in 2020.


25 posted on 06/21/2020 12:21:38 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: The Fop
Typically, around 55,000 Americans die every year from seasonal flu.

Stopping right there. Nope, that's not true.

26 posted on 06/21/2020 12:21:54 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: The Fop

Pneumonia is the bigger killer
And there is a vaccine for it
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

I noticed since the last time I checked this, the CDC is now combining all pneumonia and covid, they used to be separated by covid, covid with pneumonia and, pneumonia ..pneumonia alone was generally higher after the covid peak


27 posted on 06/21/2020 12:25:28 PM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: The Fop
Influenza Research Database
28 posted on 06/21/2020 12:26:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: The Fop

How mahy flu deaths were listed as Covid-19 deaths?


29 posted on 06/21/2020 12:33:07 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If its all around you than its part of your life like it or not, handle it how ever you wish.
It aint F’en going away so go lick some door knobs DH


30 posted on 06/21/2020 12:44:13 PM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: Bell Bouy II
That's just not true. The flu is very contagious. Flu cases usually number in the 10s of millions in this country alone. It's in the 100s of millions worldwide.

Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden

Just click on any year you care to review.

31 posted on 06/21/2020 12:45:24 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: The Fop

Good question. Good luck getting honest data from TPTB.


32 posted on 06/21/2020 12:50:45 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: The Fop

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Gunner


33 posted on 06/21/2020 12:58:02 PM PDT by weps4ret (Republicans are suffering from Testicular Atrophy, The Continuing Saga!! Still!!)
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To: The Fop

I think the underlying question is what is the normal death rate from all causes that the covid 19 has added to? The regular flu is a small number of the total deaths and is a range. There is a strong likelihood that because the symptoms are the same,some regular flu has gotten mixed in with the covid numbers.

Every day nearly 8,000 people die in the US from all causes. That’s 56,000 per week. At the peak of the covid death curve we hit 14,000 deaths. Now we are under 5,000. When we look back from St. Patrick’s day 2021 we’ll have some idea what the answer to that question is.

My feeling is that a large number of the lethal age group (75+)will have been killed prematurely and are the biggest bump in the curve. They won’t be around to die later in the year. What that number is can’t be known until the year is over.

However the total number of US citizens 75 and over is 21 million. Actuarially the probability that anyone of them will die in the next 12 months is 6%, so the total deaths in the next 12 months from this group will be 1.2 million, or 23,000 per week. I’m guessing it will dip from the above effect.


34 posted on 06/21/2020 1:02:12 PM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: The Fop; All

Put this is in mix. In Colorado, two death numbers are reported, “Deaths Among People With COVID-19, Deaths from COVID-19”. Deaths among means someone died of say, cancer, but test positive for CV-19.

Here’s the latest for Colorado:

“Deaths Among”: 1,647
“Deaths From”: 1,429

Worldometer reports the higher number of course. If this is similar in other states, you can extrapolate the amount of overcounting.


35 posted on 06/21/2020 1:03:52 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Just sit in your house until the food stops coming and then starve. You'll be safe.)
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To: The Fop

Here you go....

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/


36 posted on 06/21/2020 1:24:47 PM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: albie

Yup.


37 posted on 06/21/2020 1:43:30 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: semimojo

Dont forget the lower flu death could be tied to the fact that people are physical distancing and not working or getting into crowds. During SARS era flu deaths in japan dropped. Ostensibly due to decreased activity and masks.


38 posted on 06/21/2020 1:46:34 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: EEGator

That’s it.


39 posted on 06/21/2020 1:53:13 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Robert DeLong

All of them.


40 posted on 06/21/2020 1:57:29 PM PDT by EEGator
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