Posted on 06/20/2020 6:25:54 AM PDT by loucon
They keep saying on the news how many states are getting worse, but never why.
This chart shows which states are getting better and which are getting worse. The scale represents the percent of the total population of the state who have tested positive.
This number is based on the number of reported positive test results. The real number would be of a factor higher. Does .55& represent herd immunity?
To me, this correlates to .55% (a little over 1/2 of a percent) as the turning point.
Not necessarily. They tested everyone in every nursing home and assisted living in Mass. In the one I know a lot about there were 23 positives, several with no symptoms. There were a lot with mild symptoms. Only a few with severe symptoms. All of those tested were in their 80's and 90's.
They do a lot more than nothing. The church choir (no masks, 6 foot distancing, lots of spread) versus the beauty parlor (close proximately, thin masks, no spread) shows that clearly masks do something. Obviously a medical professional with constant exposure cannot stay uninfected with just a thin mask.
No, that's not what it's about. That's a rationalization. There are benefits to masks clearly shown by the church choir and beauty parlor scenarios. There are drawbacks as well, and the efficacy in any given situation is probably not knowable. You want to skip the mask? Go ahead, I could give a crap. I have to wear one to keep my job, so I wear one in the stores as well.
Thanks for the response. Very glad you both recovered quickly, and hope you stay well. Like many, I’m frustrated that reported statics seem designed to obscure what is happening qualitatively (deaths being the exception, and even those stats are suspect), leaving the impression we are being manipulated.
In Nevada we are getting the headlines of record single day new cases announced.
The reality is that as the place reopens, employers are testing all who return to work for the active virus and for antibodies.
I know a couple of people who tested positive for the antibodies. One was sick in February and another never had symptoms.
My kids are in their late twenties and early thirties. They are not concerned about catching it but are cautious when out in public though they only wear the mask when required by the business.
The nursing home near me just mass tested all residents, employees, and regular visiting contract people, around 225 people. 100% were negative. not a complete surprise since my county hasn’t seen any new cases since April.
But most of the survivors weren’t in the first wave.
This information was for Day 1, which I would assume was for all beaches, and all waves. The first wave, especially at Utah, certainly had a higher fatalities, although I doubt if it ever got to the “almost certain death” level.
If you have any information as to the fatality count and % fatalities by wave, I would appreciate your sharing it.
Some beaches had little to no resistance, some had very heavy resistance.
Omaha beach- 842 dead. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1960/11/first-wave-at-omaha-beach/303365/
Number of killed at the individual beaches.
Sword beach ( British ): 250 (approx. figure)
Juno beach ( Canadian ): 335
Gold beach ( British ): 350 (approx. figure )
Omaha beach incl. Pointe du Hoc ( USA ): 2811
Utah beach ( USA ): 197
https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-survival-rate-of-the-first-wave-on-D-day?share=1
Very interesting data. Looks like the highest % loss was at Omaha Beach (no surprise there) with a fatality rate of 8.2%. The death rate at Utah Beach was 0.85% for comparison. That was the lowest of any of the beaches, the British and Canadian included. Sucked to be in the Big Red One - you would much rather have been in the Ivy Division.
Still not sure that that quite meets the definition of “almost certain death”, though.
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