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Please, No Rebel Flags at the Tulsa Rally, Mr. President
Juneteenth | Nikos1121

Posted on 06/19/2020 3:10:44 PM PDT by nikos1121

Please don’t spoil the message. Campaign staff please go thru the lines and ask that no rebel flags are flown. Anti-Trumpers are sure to have them there to stage for the media. Be smarter than the other side.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: flags; nonsense; please; rebel; trumprally; vanity
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To: sport

I’ve just always been leery of that “undecided voter” thing. The first time I could vote was in 1988. The first time I stated paying attention to politics was in 1976 (weird kid in a weird family). Even with the comparatively limited media we had in 1988, I just couldn’t believe that anyone would vote based on something in the last couple of days. 2000 showed that it could be true with the “W” DUI reveal, but even that seemed pretty thin. Some votes were changed, but not many.

My personal (the only kind) belief is that the “middle” or “Silent Majority” was always the white middle-class and that those people have been replaced through immigration, both legal and illegal. Well, that and they have been medicated into an obese stupor. I think their last outburst was 2016, and that Trump had 2 years to lock things down, and was blocked by Paul Ryan and the Deep State. Bottom line: I think things are going to collapse before they get better. I have hope for my grandchildren, but my final 25 or so years will not be pretty.

That’s my blackpill for today. Tomorrow, I’m going to the gun range in the morning and the golf range in the morning. Tomorrow will be a better day.


181 posted on 06/19/2020 7:54:23 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Paleoconservatives were right about literally everything.)
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To: Shadow44

I have fought my battles and I able to choose my battlefields now. Fighting for segregationist is not a battle which I will join.

You feel free to climb that hill if you feel it is with dying upon. I chose not to die on a Democrat hill.


182 posted on 06/19/2020 7:59:19 PM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Leaning Right

I think you have struck the nail on the head and I agree with you in this instance.

Don’t make Confederate flag a subject that the leftist media can harp on to divert the attention of the suburban, guilt ridden, low information voters from the President’s message. Don’t make it easy for the MSM. Display the American flag in abundance and if the MSM attacks that then they will look stupid even to the low information voters.


183 posted on 06/19/2020 8:07:47 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: cdcdawg
"Why make it easier on them?"

You don't get it. Even if there aren't any Confederate or other flag there, the media will report that there was. They'll take anything, a sign, something someone is wearing, and they'll run with it. There may be restrictions on what people can bring in. If the Trump campaign wants to set those restrictions, it's they're right. I'm more concerned about the safety of the President and of the people attending, to be worried about what the media is focusing on. They will do what they do best...lie, and make a mountain out of a molehill, no matter what it is.

184 posted on 06/19/2020 8:21:09 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

So? They will call everyone “Nazis”, too, so bring a Nazi flag? Now, I know you get all upset when someone “puts words in your mouth” or “draws a logical inference from what you said”, so, please, explain the difference. Otherwise, I guess we can put you down for a Swastika in Tulsa because the media will say it anyway.

Of course the media will lie. Old conservatives will DR3 as an ineffectual way of retaliating. Build a movement around the American flag and American values. Something that has a chance. If you bring a Confederate flag to the Trump rally, are you helping or hurting Donald Trump’s re-election chances? That’s a direct question. Let’s see if you have the honesty to answer it directly.

Still don’t see the rolling over on my part. Maybe you are getting to it.


185 posted on 06/19/2020 8:30:12 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Paleoconservatives were right about literally everything.)
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To: cdcdawg

I got to it...more than once. You can’t see it, or understand it.


186 posted on 06/19/2020 9:05:18 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

No, I don’t understand it. I think taking a Confederate flag to a Trump rally is stupid if you want Trump to win. You have done nothing to convince me otherwise. I don’t think “they will call you racist anyway” is a compelling reason. Along the line of that logic ...

I’ll look for you and your Swastika flag in Tulsa because they’re going to call you a Nazi anyway. Have a great night. Please vote for President Trump in November. We need him to win, if only to delay the wreckage a little bit. He won’t do much, but that’s the best we can do right now.


187 posted on 06/19/2020 9:13:52 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Paleoconservatives were right about literally everything.)
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To: wardaddy; Travis McGee

FR hasn’t been this much fun since Bush’s party hacks were hunting immigration patriots and zotting them for being “racist xenophobes”. And then just like that, everyone began to wonder where the enormous illegal alien problem came from.

This time the juggernaut is barreling ahead in a full blown culture war, and once again it’s aiding its enemies. The juggernaut loves the divisive and simple minded history promoted by frauds like D’Souza. Limbaugh was spouting that same nonsense today so it will become even more entrenched and popular than it already is. And in a few short years that crew will be astounded as the war on American culture goes after the Founders and eradicates them.

That’s already started of course. The slow learners haven’t figured out that it’s not going to stop at The Evil Battle Flag and the never hurt anyone Aunt Jemima. So get your popcorn. I’m sure that there were some Romans who figured out that the Fall was occuring and who took the time to watch the collapse. We can emulate them because nothing is going to stop it.


188 posted on 06/19/2020 9:42:43 PM PDT by Pelham ( Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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To: Pelham

Both D’Souza and Rush have said it’s not going to stop, that it is going to keep going , going after the Founders and more, including Lincoln, etc. I don’t think anyone out there ever believed it would stop with just a few Confederate statues.


189 posted on 06/19/2020 9:49:25 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: nikos1121

Play by their rules. It is time.


190 posted on 06/19/2020 9:55:03 PM PDT by ALASKA (Watching an attempted coup by a thousand cuts)
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To: BlackAdderess

You might want to reexamine that. Not a state, but other than Cherokee, Oklahoma Indian tribes aligned with the Confederacy.

https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry.php?entry=CI011


191 posted on 06/19/2020 10:03:25 PM PDT by Pelham ( Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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To: vg0va3
I have always wondered why we as Republicans would fight over statues put up by Democrats in the early 1900’s? Why would we fight about a flag that Democrats fought under? No Republican fought for that flag. Why are we supposed to now? Because Democrats want to purge their own past?

+1

192 posted on 06/19/2020 10:37:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: cdcdawg

You nailed it!


193 posted on 06/20/2020 12:17:40 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Pelham; wardaddy
They would not even defend Gen. Lee, and now these Con Inc cucks are surprised?


194 posted on 06/20/2020 3:24:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: nikos1121

Maybe some testosterone shots will get you back into shape...


195 posted on 06/20/2020 3:35:37 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb

I think a lot of people miss my point. It’s not about being macho, It’s about being smart. The rebel flag does not represent me. The American flag does. The press is just waiting for any sign that perpetuates this myth that we’re a bunch of white supremacists.


196 posted on 06/20/2020 6:26:48 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Drew68; vg0va3; wardaddy; Pelham; rockrr; cdcdawg; nikos1121; mass55th
vg0va3: "I have always wondered why we as Republicans would fight over statues put up by Democrats in the early 1900’s?
Why would we fight about a flag that Democrats fought under?
No Republican fought for that flag.
Why are we supposed to now?
Because Democrats want to purge their own past?"

Right!
Most important point to remember is the "Confederate" flag was really just the battle-flag of Democrats fighting to destroy the USA, then, just as now:

>

197 posted on 06/20/2020 6:27:59 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: ek_hornbeck

Wow....


198 posted on 06/20/2020 6:38:00 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

I have no particular objection to the CBF in general - those who want to identify with it don’t need to ask my blessing. But, after 185+ posts, isn’t it obvious to everyone else just how divisive this flag is?

Personally, If I were able to attend I’d be rooting him on - waving the star spangled banner, the flag of my country.

YMMV


199 posted on 06/20/2020 6:38:43 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Rebellion against, England, though.


200 posted on 06/20/2020 7:11:38 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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