Posted on 05/07/2020 6:32:35 PM PDT by RaceBannon
Corona Virus Daily Thread #51 COVID-19 5/07/2020
Inmates at one California jail tried to infect themselves with coronavirus, Los Angeles Sheriff says
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/11/us/california-inmates-coronavirus-self-infection/index.html
By Stella Chan, CNN
they are jumping
“Heinsberg Study results published - Bonn-based research team determine COVID-19 infection fatality rate”
-see https://www.uni-bonn.de/news/111-2020?set_language=en
so it spreads longer than flu and can infect population longer as it mutates not to kill the host
“so it spreads longer than flu and can infect population longer as it mutates not to kill the host”
Hope he is wrong. I do not see a vaccine in the near future.
OK, found an answer. Apparently, over 7,237 mutations, but no new strains, per University of Glasgow Centre for Virus Research.
https://www.gla.ac.uk/news/headline_722109_en.html
It’s “an answer”, though as I said yesterday, there are others who will contradict this study. Maybe some time next year we will have better info, hindsight being 20/20 and all.
It there is only one Strain why is the death rate so different between Ca and New York (west coast verses east coast)?
The Glasgow research needs to be peer review, it is not peer review yet. Did they get samples from the US west coast for their research.
Been checking this thread daily.. Has it become an echo chamber...?
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Yes, even researchers can’t agree. Kind of frustrating. U of Glasgow is saying none of the thousands of mutations amount to a new strain, and that none are significantly different, more dangerous or more contagious. These tiny mutations happen with all viruses and help epidemiologists track the spread of a virus.
I’ve seen other sources take the “only 1 strain” position as well as several who have claimed 2, 3, 5 or more strains.
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I recently did a QA/chart review for our clinics on patients who tested positive on the rRT-PCR done at Labcorp or Quest and thought I would share a few things we tracked. Very small sample size of 14 of a pretty healthy population. I am positive we had many false negatives, in part due to technique, that were clearly much sicker than the ones who tested positive so take this for what little it’s worth. Wish we had tracked highly suspected cases but we didn’t.
Two locations last positive was March 30th, the other April 20th.
Mean Values
Age 40 (21-64)
Gender 57.1% Male
Average number of comorbities, 2
BMI 31.0
Pulse 77
Temp 99.3
Pulse Ox 98%
WBC 5400
NLR 3..47
AST 27
ALT 37
Length of illness 9.11 days
Days Febrile 3.67
Required hospitalization 7% (1, the 64 year old)
Cough 67%
Dyspnea 67%
Diarrhea 67%
Rash 11% (on toes)
Loss of Taste and or Small 100% (Many report that weeks or a month later that its better but not normal)
Another anecdotal article on INDO. Dr used the drug on himself and saw immediate improvement, then along with other doctors started treating patients with INDO. Again, ANECDOTAL (in case Dr Fauci is reading), but Dr Leibowitz stated, If we had used indomethacin earlier, many patients would not have gone to the emergency room and infected perhaps 100 other people in the process..
https://hospitalhealthcare.com/covid-19/indomethacin-has-a-positive-impact-on-covid-19-symptoms/
The 2006 study showing INDO effective vs SARS-COV and CCOV
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17302372/
The 2020 study showing INDO effective vs SARS-COV2
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.017624v1.full.pdf
That's what I figured as I watched a portion of this hearing. Given that the federal government, including the CDC, has been involved in so much PC garbage over the years, there is no way, whether Trump continues to imagine it or Patty Murray wants it, that the relevant agencies can truly get us through it. Too many people too busy being woke and "resisting" for too long.
From Dr. Campbell’s video yesterday, Spain is requiring hand and feet disinfecting when going into a shop. They walk across a mat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6xW3gssIaw
Im curious as to why the US has not needed to do the street spraying and disinfecting like mentioned here.
Good question.
Austin, TX CBS evening news just said if people keep slacking off on hand washing/social distancing/etc. will result in another shut down. Two deaths there today.
Also, SNAP cards can be used for online orders and pick up and deliveries.
Here’s something just posted on Facebook by Bill Gertz (Mods, if it is not OK to post this, please delete):
It’s war. Today I had a fascinating meeting — both physical in an office in Alexandria and two by video conference — with five retired Army medical doctors, two of whom were White House presidential doctors and two who worked at the U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command, aka Fort Detrick, the one that specializes in biological warfare defenses.
All the doctors but one are in private practice now and are steeped in the coronavirus pandemic.
So, some interesting take aways from my meeting.
These doctors treating patients for the disease still do not know a lot about the Wuhan pneumonia. But one thing that is changing is that the disease is about to get officially re-categorized from a mainly respiratory affliction to an inflammatory malady or a combination of both. The reason is the blood coagulation issue that is cropping up as key characteristic. This is causing blood clotting that is killing people in addition to the lung damage and immune over-response that causes multiple organ damage or failure.
One doctor said this inflammatory disease aspect is like the opposite of Ebola, a hemorrhagic disease that kills by causing massive bleeding. Covid is killing through blood clots or blood coagulation. The latest treatment tests are now trying a combination of the anti-viral drug remdesivir plus an anti-inflammatory drug.
Second, the way out of the virus crisis is looking, well, not good. The people leading the response in WH NIH, and CDC are flying blind while claiming to be committed to following the data. The doctors say the data has been wrong on all fronts so claims that everything is being done on a “science-based” approach to the response is not accurate.
The White House Task Force is adamantly opposed to the so-called Swedish model of seeking to defeat the virus through herd immunity. Fauci, et. al are not allowing any discussion of Sweden’s less stringent, non-lockdown approach.
I asked the doctors of the three routes to virus defeat — herd immunity, therapy/treatment and vaccine — what is the best?
Answer: all three. But currently we’re only doing two! Therapy and vaccine. And most of the vaccine work being done is going to be to produce a vaccine like the flu vaccine, which is iffy at best for preventing the disease. One ex-military doctor said there needs to be a vaccine similar to smallpox that includes live virus. That is going to be way off. Another doctor said vaccines are coming along and that the Big Pharma working on it claim they are prepared, once approved, to produce 100 million doses by September and 300 million doses by January.
I briefed the doctors on the Chinese mishandling and my new booklet How China’s Communist Party Made the World Sick and it was very well received.
All the doctors agreed with me that unless original virus samples are obtained directly from China, it will be very difficult to find the origin and craft remedies to defeat the virus. China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology initially promised to provide original virus samples from those infected in December but then reneged and refused.
The doctors had no insights but generally ascribed to the current official thinking on the two origin theories: (a) naturally occurring spread from the wet market in Wuhan, or (b) an accidental and uncontained infection from a Wuhan lab leading to outbreak.
The Fort Detrick doctors noted that they had responded to virus infections at their P-4 labs in the past and appropriate action was taken to prevent larger infections. China through incompetence did not handle a laboratory infection and we’re paying the price now.
This is my military-grade mask that are sold at the Pentagon. I dislike having to wear a mask and object to being forced to do so in stores. But if I’m going to wear one, it might as well be miltiary-grade and camo to boot.
The mask comes in military-specific variants. The Navy version comes with a mini-AN/SPY-1 phased array radar and is known as the Aegis mask; the Air Force one is equipped with a aerial refueling capability; the Army mask comes with a mud filter and the Marines...nails. Something to chew on.
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