Posted on 04/21/2020 8:13:38 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
My uncle got angry this morning on the phone. Said more police officers should be yelled at regarding Coronavirus enforcement and because they are not protecting and serving their communities. He says people should listen to BLM. I think he is off his rockers, but is he right about a big police-civilian disconnect?
BLM?
Bureau of Land Managment
I’m confused. What issue does BLM have with Covid-19 protocol enforcement?
Bureau of Land Management. Their proposal is to load up half of New York City and ship them off to BLM land in Wyoming and drop them off at half-mile intervals. This will enhance social distancing and lower the population density in NYC.
Wow, we’re really at the stage of loading people into train cars.
Well, you’ve come to the right place if you want to see some over the top critique of the police in the US.
I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
There’s plenty of water just east of NYC.
Black Lives Matter. My uncle is a libertarian, hes pissed right now. He despises the police and he wants them gone.
Black Lives Matter. That is what BLM is
I think we have about twice the number of laws we need, and twice the number of cops needed to enforce them.
But I think most cops try to do a good job.
Too bad they won’t rat out the bad ones.
IMHO, the isolation distance would be much shorter in water tapering to zero at depth.
Your concern is duly noted.
Black lives do matter. So does every other life. I don’t like BLM’s politics. Almost all of these “people’s movements” have become infiltrated by leftists who push the group into the Dem party’s Bureau of Land Management (plantation).
I like people’s movements, of all kinds really. Even when I disagree. I like the people to challenge government when they think it is abusive, even if I disagree. That is what America is all about. The media long ago stopped being an honest check on government abuse.
BLM has some legitimate gripes, on paper. It’s sort of circular, double edged sword. Criminals prey on their own people. Rich white criminals prey on rich white people. Poor prey on other poor. So the poor inner city folks demand police step in to protect them from criminals. But this means more police presence, and more car stops - and the poor are more likely to give probable cause because they are poor they are more likely to have deferred maintenance issues like broken tail light, head lights, expired tags, etc that warrant a stop and search. So then the poor feel they are being picked on. When really, the cops are just doing what they are asked to do - protect the innocent poor from the criminals.
I don’t think the statistics show that “white cops” disproportionately shoot black innocents. But that is their perception and it is worth listening to. Because the problem is not easy to solve. Tell cops to back off, and crime rates rise and then the poor want more cops.
I think it is fair to say that the cops are going a little overboard right now. Some guy running alone on the beach, or surfing, or hiking alone, or sitting in a car with his wife and kids or in an empty park is no risk to anyone - until he is chased and tackled by 3 cops trying to enforce a closure order. It’s absurd. So without knowing your uncle’s particular beef, I can see my own reasons for being a little upset. This whole shutdown thing may in fact have zero real merit. It may have prevented a whole rush of people infected all at once that would have broken the healthcare system. Maybe. But there is no real proof of that. It’s just leap of faith by the same people who demand scientific rigor for using Hydroxychloriquine. At the same time we’ve been in lockdown for over a month now and cases keep rising in CA, IL, NJ etc. There is a theory that the virus just has to run its course and that the entire lockdown thing is just way too heavy handed. Social distance, limiting gatherings may have been just as effective. There is no scientific proof sheltering works. It’s just taken on faith. But they act like it is proof.
We don’t know how long the virus really incubates. We don’t know if reinfection can occur. We don’t know when a person is truly cured and no longer infectious. And the people are still out and about at markets, pot shops, liquor stores, pharmacies and other places. So it’s not really a “lockdown”. Civil libertarian would say, each person is responsible for themselves. If you are at risk and afraid, lock yourself down. If you are a free American, then do what free Americans do. Nobody should really be forcing anyone to do anything in America. At least not on this kind of scale. Quarantine yourselves if you want to.
And there are health, welfare, and economic consquences. Another freeper said this is not a life or death situation. It is a life or life situation, or death and death situation. It is up to each of us to be responsible for ourselves and not to be nannied, bullied, or ordered around for something that is not even proven to be effective and may just prolong the disease. Being in economic and physical lockdown comes with plenty of its own health problems; physical health, mental and emotional health, feeling of fulfillment, loneliness, and severe economic damage. And severe economic damage is directly correlated to poor health outcomes in general - rise in obesity and diabetes for example. So a skeptical mind may wonder if that isn’t part of the plan - stretch this thing out as long as possible for political advantage.
On one hand, I sympathize with the amount of work they put into a case only to have a liberal judge dismiss it with a slap on the wrist.
On the other hand, I’ve witnessed the evolution from ‘Officer Friendly’ to ‘you’re all the enemy’, which isn’t healthy for either side. I do know the way things are now, in my area, the young deputies are awful quick to pull their weapons, which isn’t intelligent in a very rural community.
That would be like a mass Naked and Afraid survival show. Most of them would die in the first week.
Over the top? They’re all pieces of schiff. I find that to be rather accurate. Simply union thugs in a fraternity more concerned with covering their asses than doing their job. I’ll take my chances with criminals, at least then I know what I am dealing with. There is no justice left in America.
Well there you go again.
Thanks for proving my point.
“That would be like a mass Naked and Afraid survival show. Most of them would die in the first week.”
That’s the genius behind the idea - reduces NYC’s density without increasing Wyoming’s.
All in jest - prayers for those suffering in NYC and those that may be terrified but are still doing important work or just trying to make a buck to pay the rent.
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