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Corona Virus Daily Thread #46 COVID-19
many | 4-18-2020 | many

Posted on 04/17/2020 8:39:57 PM PDT by RaceBannon

Corona Virus Daily Thread #45 COVID-19


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19
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To: amorphous

Yes, it kills the weak fast, and then tortures a select group to death over, sometimes, months.


741 posted on 04/21/2020 7:08:44 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: BenLurkin

The antibody also picks up other corona viruses. It’s not very precise.


742 posted on 04/21/2020 7:19:47 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: blueplum

During my first MI, which happened at age 39 as a result of a 100% occluded RCA, what I experienced was unusual sort of low grade pain in both arms that compelled me to hold and stretch them above my head as I sat.

This lasted for about four hours when I then noticed an unusual pain in the left chest. It was kind of a burning, sharp pain, but not all that intense of a pain. Then the pain suddenly traveled down in a spiral. I could feel it like a hot coal moving through. Never felt anything like that before, I went to the ER with my friend right away and was in the hospital for 5 days in New Orleans.

My second MI, which occurred at the age of 45 while I was inline skating, was different. On the 14th lap, a blood clot moved into my stent and caused a stenty (nurses call it that). They say these are deadly. The reason the blood clot occurred is because I was being a cheap skate and not buying or taking my statins. My natural LDL level is around 186. On statins it’s between 75-85. Genetically high LDL inherited from dad.

Anyway, the second felt like a fizzing can of soda in the center of my chest. Very unusual sensation, not painful. I figured if I just finished my last four laps, a mile, it would stop. It did not stop.

When I finished, I walked home and took some outdated, bunk nitro. It didn’t work. The fizzy sensation in my chest seemed to intensify, I called 911, and during this conversation, I began to be unable to answer simple questions. I couldn’t think of any answers.

I waited outside for the ambulance in a chair so my dogs would not eat the EMTs. I got into the stretcher on my own, and once inside, after being sort of stabilized, we left for the hospital. I was fading in and out for most of the ride, but they gave me some good nitro, oxygen and fentanyl, which all seemed to have a positive effect, and I was mostly conscious from this point until my next Catheter surgery, which put a drug eluting stent inside my original bare metal stent.

The most visible outward sign that something was very wrong with me was that I was sweating profusely, all over my body for seemingly no reason. The EMT had to towel me off considerably before applying any tape pr electrodes. I was in very good physical shape at the time, so the sweat was not a result of my recent exercise.


743 posted on 04/21/2020 7:40:43 AM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: Black Agnes

Thanks. Good info.

I’m thinking lettuce is in my rearview mirror.


744 posted on 04/21/2020 8:45:44 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: bgill

You’re south of I40, correct? Or thereabouts?

PM me for a link to a fall planting schedule. Lettuce is wonderful for fall gardens in the deep south. Ditto chinese cabbage.


745 posted on 04/21/2020 8:47:21 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: amorphous

“Well, unless you purchase at least 1 ticket, your odds of winning drop considerably!”

I know some call it a “stupid tax”. That only applies if you expect to win. I buy tickets sometimes just for the fun of thinking about the things I *could* do. It’s a lot cheaper entertainment than going to the movies. With the added benefit that lightning could strike 3 or 4 times or what ever the statistic is.


746 posted on 04/21/2020 9:49:20 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Fury

Another fake article about the same study that detects multiple corona viruses and has a huge false positive rate.

Your FluBro is showing.


747 posted on 04/21/2020 9:55:35 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel

Lol, we also buy 1 on occasion. At least the odds aren’t zero then. And you do get that rush of excitement when checking to see what the winning number is. :)


748 posted on 04/21/2020 10:19:44 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: Black Agnes

I’ve gardened forever and have our dates. Just have a bad knee so can’t do much.


749 posted on 04/21/2020 2:18:00 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: blueplum

Every country needs to send bills to China and never do business with them again.

Betcha there will be a huge influx of them in the US on student visas next fall semester. That is so very wrong.


750 posted on 04/21/2020 2:22:11 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: blueplum

Is that Gates’ and Fauci’s October Event 21 already made pandemic vaccine?

Which of the 8 strains will it be for and how about all the ones it wasn’t made for?


751 posted on 04/21/2020 2:24:05 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: mrsmith

Incapable for live but managed to get out that last text. SMH.


752 posted on 04/21/2020 2:25:11 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: greeneyes

I’m still using a 1970 Ronco dehydrator.


753 posted on 04/21/2020 2:29:11 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: mrsmith; blueplum; null and void; PA Engineer; amorphous; Mom MD; Fury; RummyChick; All

More doctors are concerned that ventilators are killing people rather than helping. Suggestions are to use nasal oxygen delivery or CPAP machines. This is ince blood oxygen is low but some patients can breathe OK. Also it is becoming clear that red blood cells are being made incapable of transporting O2 and CO2. One suggestion that I did not find again was to give a whole blood transfusion to increase blood oxygen while waiting for medicine to do it’s job.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-overused-for-covid-19/

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/ny/scientists-study-coronavirus-attack-on-hemoglobin-test-new-treatments-with-old-standbys/2020/04/10/


754 posted on 04/21/2020 10:51:18 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

thanks


755 posted on 04/21/2020 11:19:10 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: gleeaikin
Something I just thought of. The greatest iron disorders are actual low levels in women. I wonder if iron loss during menstruation in women may explain some of the disparity in viral outcomes.

Women may still suffer low oxygen levels, but not suffer the ill effects of high iron blood levels. Just a thought.
756 posted on 04/21/2020 11:23:34 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

they should be looking at people with thalessemia major and minor and sickle cell who already have oxgyen issues but not iron issues.

I would presume they have a harder time with this diseases...but..maybe not. Not counting black issues in US that could be due to high blood pressure, obesity, etc.

There is a trait in sickle cell seen in Africa but not in US..cant remember what it is called. That difference should be looked at as well.


757 posted on 04/22/2020 6:29:17 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

Duffy Antigen is what I am thinking about with sickle cell


758 posted on 04/22/2020 6:54:50 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

Duffy antigen as it relates to HIV
https://retrovirology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-4690-10-S1-O31

The African-specific DARC null allele increases risk of HIV infection.

HIV-2 strains but not HIV-1 strains utilised DARC as an entry co-receptor. However, HIV-1 could bind to DARC on red cells and be delivered to activated CD4+ T-cells resulting in subsequent infection. GWAS analysis confirmed the link between DARC null genotype and African benign neutropenia. The DARC null phenotype with African benign neutropenia resulted in low CCL5 plasma levels and increased the relative risk of HIV-1 infection approximately 3-fold.


759 posted on 04/22/2020 7:06:02 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/genetic-trait-makes-africans-especially-prone-to-hiv-infection

Researchers say the trait is extremely common because it used to have a beneficial effect; it protected people against a form of malaria that is now fairly rare.

Researchers aren’t yet clear on the mechanism by which the lack of Duffy antigens increases the risk of HIV infection, but they have a few theories. During an immune response, Duffy antigens create chemical messengers that summon white blood cells to fight an infection. Since those chemicals latch onto the same white blood cell proteins that are targeted by HIV, said Weiss, their absence in duffy-negative people may allow the virus to proceed unchecked [Wired News]. As for why HIV-infected patients with this genetic variant live longer, Weiss says it’s possible that since the white blood cells aren’t being summoned to the site of the infection, it may take longer for the HIV virus to spread throughout the body.


760 posted on 04/22/2020 7:10:11 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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