Posted on 04/17/2020 10:03:52 AM PDT by eastexsteve
I purpose opted out of the flu shot in March because I thought I would get something worse.
Had some really weird thing in Feb.
I remember back in January I believe that there were multiple school closures around East Texas and everyone just attributed it to the flu. I wonder if that could have been the virus and would explain why there are so few cases in Texas. I am not sure if they did any testing as it was entire schools. Could have been both contagions as well.
I still think if it was widespread in November, there would have been unexplained cases of ARDS and the CDC would have been all over it and found it.
Not only that, it would have been widespread in China too. And all the evidence is that while it might have been slowly spreading, it didn’t take off until it hit the wuhan market.
The current speculation that it spread from a research lab, has a research assistant getting sick. Spreading it to his wife. And his wife went to the wuhan market.
If that story is true, that doesn’t leave a lot of spreading prior to the wuhan market. But since the illness can be a 3 or 4 week illness, that story could line up with the first case being found in November and the wife spreading it to Wuhan in early January.
I too would like an antibody test. I had a mild cold towards the end of February. There was sneezing, that is not supposed to be a symptom of COVID. And I always have a mostly dry cough due to allergies. And if I did, probably 20 people in my office would have caught it, as I was sneezing at work one day, before I realized it was more than allergies.
” but I have seen it a couple times out there that the virus tends to hit people who got a flu shot this year. FWIW......”
FWIW. ... Not much.
I had something similar in late October. I called my primary and told him I was going to the ER for what I thought was pneumonia. I never went, as it began to remit. What you had guys had wasn’t the flu, as the test showed.
“One of the reasons people like Drs. Fauci and Birx are concerned about a flare-up later in the year is that there may be NO permanent immunity to COVID-19 after recovery.”
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Perhaps they could store some of their own plasma for their own later use as convalescent plasma to treat any flareup. Would be a perfect match, I would think.
My teenage son was sick for two or three days with symptoms that sound suspiciously like covid-19 during the last week of February. In particular, the shortness of breath was an unusual symptom. We live in southern California.
I too am looking forward to an antibody test for our entire family.
ME TOO
ok not really. Haven’t been sick in quite a few years. We don’t get a flu shot but I think we’ve had all of the seasonal flus and are immune at this point. Wife works at a nursing home and for the first few years, we were sick 2-3 times a year and then it stopped completely.
correction. “Flu like” symptoms started early not at the end of the flu season.
My Mom had something with similar symptoms (headache, deep cough, feeling incredibly run down, difficulty breathing). I know she’s interested in getting an antibody test to see if what she had early December matches Coronavirus.
My MIL had similar symptoms around the same time. Sadly we lost her suddenly about a week before Christmas of last year. There’s no way to know for sure, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that virus was already running rampant since mid Oct/Nov.
I think an antibody test would be very helpful. We have to determine how much immunity the general population has. That may give us a better idea as to when this bug actually hit our shores.
I know frequently doctors will conclude that some random virus is responsible for feeling cruddy (in absence of a positive result of a flu test). They generally tell you to rest, push fluids, let it run its course.
Perhaps pilots and flight attendants should have a way to submit feedback on symptoms they observe in travelers. I’m sure some computer system could be made to cross reference observed/reported symptoms and and passenger seat assignments, with flight numbers to see where concentrations of unusual symptoms are originating and who is bringing it in.
How does that explain the rest of the world’s reaction to this? Just curious as to how to explain the images of other countries literally fog sanitizing the streets, buildings etc.?
Why ...if this is widespread...would America have appeared somewhat “immune” to the peak ravages like other countries?
And if we are not or cannot consistently vaccinate against it, like the poor validity of the current flu shot, how does society live with an endemic epidemic?
The symptoms we had from ‘The Crud’ (whatever it was- flu? Virus? Don’t know) were:
—Chills for 4 days
—Runny nose for 3 days
—Tired- slept many hours
—Slight headache (not bad at all- just constant for 2 days)
—Slight Fever- only got to 99.2- but had night sweats and ‘fever dreams’ from it
—Nausea (I threw up once, others threw up a few times- food just laid in stomach and wouldn’t pass through for some reason- finally it hurt too much so i made myself throw it up- others though threw up without forcing it)
—Diarrhea for 2 days off an on
—Muscle Aches
—Got winded easily- easy tasks would make us lose our breath easily
—Slight sore throat- but not bad at all
—No cough- none of us developed a cough
Any of that sound familiar?
This Crud junk really wasn’t too bad- We’ve had upper respiratory flues that really knocked the stuffings out of us in the past- this Crud junk wasn’t nearly as bad as that
Unless they are obese or diabetic.
There is evidence it has been around LONG before November 2019 as well.
The truth shall set you free.
This is at least a month before the first reported case in China.
If accurate we probably shouldn't be calling it the Wuhan virus since it was circulating well before the first case there.
That's funny. Why would they bother with convalescent plasma treatment then if there's no immunity response in recovering patients?
There are many plausible reasons for this. First, the acute antibody response would be IgM antibodies, which would show recent or current infection and are short-lived. It is the IgG antibodies that are the longer lasting ones, produced by cells with memory. It may be that these antibodies require a second exposure to the virus to kick in.
It could also be a false positive for COVID-19 which has also been reported, especially if these were some of the earlier tests that were more questionable.
No we don't, it's a waste of time. Anyone who should test positive has already potentially passed it on to members of their family or relatives or anyone else they may have come in contact with and those people may or may not become sick.
This is another variation of a flu that cycles every hear. You're either going to catch it sooner or later or not at all.
By implementing a shutdown across states, all it accomplishes is delaying the spread and destroying businesses along with it but it will not stop it.
For whatever biological reasons, millions of people never contracted the flu of past years and the same will apply today.....
You said you had something back in January but you and your wife survived it. How many people did you come in contact with while you were contagious? How many of them got sick?
I'm an optimist, either I will catch it or I won't and there's not a darn thing that I can do about it.
This virus might’ve been spreading as early as last summer.
Back then, all at once, people (including relatives) were having breathing problems and ending up in the hospital with some mystery illness the doctors couldn’t figure out.
Like many on this thread I too was sick as a dog in late November/early December 2019. As were many of my friends (most for three weeks). We all put it off to the ‘seasonal flu’.
I was posing a question to one of my friends who is a researcher / writer for a science mag asking how I could be tested to see if I had been exposed to COVID-19 and maybe had built up immunity.
She replied: The virus apparently prompts varying levels of antibodies in different people, and they start to fade fairly quickly.
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