Posted on 04/08/2020 3:02:48 AM PDT by asinclair
After reading the paper, https://archive.is/ONUmi, about the way COVID-19 makes people ill, it strikes me that there may be a quicker, and cheaper, way to screen for infected people. It may not be 100%, but it may be a start.
Yes. In layman’s terms, it renders iron ineffective to form hemoglobin and exchange O2 and CO2. Certain medications can cause malabsorption of iron. Also excessive amounts of zinc and vitamin E. Copper, cobalt, magnesium, and vitamin C help assimilate iron. Only 8 percent of iron intake is absorbed. Those who use zinc as part of a regimen to combat Covid-19 would likely need to increase vitamin C to counter. Too much iron though, can increase free radicals and lead to heart disease. So its all a delicate balance. Definitely ask a doctor before taking iron supplments.
From the “paper” : “Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story”.
I have said, repeatedly, that this hypothesis (it’s not an investigation) COULD be true, presenting it this way doesn’t make it false - but it certainly doesn’t inspire confidence, either.
Ancient anesthesia secret:
If the lips are blue, the brain is too.
But you are not dead, until you are dead and cold. That is what my paramedic daughter told me. But blue, means you might rather you were dead...and cold.
Not quite right. You are not dead until you are warm and dead. It applies mostly to drowning and hypothermia victims. In a very rare instances those that drown in very cold water or suffer cold exposure can successfully have their heart restarted and have reasonable brain function return after an extended time without a pulse ( like 20 min not hours). This is one of the things that led us to cool people in the ICU after cardiac arrest to try to preserve brain function. The usual result of warming someone who is cold and dead is that they are warm and dead but the rare case will do ok
From the Article:
“I am not a doctor.”
“Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story.”
Without knowing anything about the author — other than the person is not a doctor — why should we give any credibility to the article? For all we know, the person is an aspiring science fiction writer.
Actually it’s close. If you live in Vermont you are no stranger to cold
You’re not dead until your warm and dead. We can’t declare someone dead if the fire temperature is below 32 centigrade. Reason there have been a whole lot of people who fell through ice and were under for a long time but recovered meaningfully.
We induce deliberate hypothermia for patients who have had cardiac arrest to protect the brain.
But once you are warm and dead i suppose it’s safe to say we let you get cold then!
All the best and stay sane
Thank you for your answer.
After reading about iron toxicity, I will ask my mom to check with her doctor to determine if she has low iron levels.
Centigrade.
One indicator of a possible, but apparently otherwise “asymptomatic” case of Covid-19 infection would be the SpO2 level <75% with no apparent cause, and if no health history of the individual showed some previously suspected cause. Fever or not, it would signal that something was robbing O2 from the hemoglobin. It would at minimum present a candidate for the Covid-19 test.
One indicator of a possible, but apparently otherwise “asymptomatic” case of Covid-19 infection would be the SpO2 level <90% with no apparent cause, and if no health history of the individual showed some previously suspected cause. Fever or not, it would signal that something was robbing O2 from the hemoglobin. It would at minimum present a candidate for the Covid-19 test.
It would depend. If someone is elderly and at altitude with an O2 sat of 88% and otherwise asymptomatic with no exposure covid would not be high on my list. Usually unexplained hypoxia is some type of shunt in the heart of lungs. If i have an asymptomatic individual with low O2 says I would first look for a blood clot in the lungs. Covid testing would probably be down the list depending on what else was going on
I don't know the answer to your question. Years ago I read an article or study that people lately are low in iron because of teflon frying pans. Using a cast iron pan is healthier. One gets at least some iron even if it's not the recommended daily amount. Don't know if this is quackery or true, but I love my cast iron pan.
In re:
“Usually unexplained hypoxia is some type of shunt in the heart of lungs. If i have an asymptomatic individual with low O2 says I would first look for a blood clot in the lungs.”
Those type of things are covered in a patients health history, which I should have included as one of the factors to consider; of course.
But minus any such reason you would also ask the patient about any immediate other condition they notice, such as a dry cough. You could also quickly listen to the lungs or even xray them. If lungs are actually clear, but the SpO2 is down, something is “eating” the SpO2.
In this period of the Covid-19 catagion, it is NOT out of character to look at the SpO2 level.
My nephews wife is the head Infectious Disease specialist at her hospital, in Westchester County north of NYC. They do have Covid-19 patients there. When the person in the office next to her expressed she was feeling like she had some shortness of breath, the FIRST thing they did was check her SpO2 level. Seeing it low, they got her a Covid-19 test and then sent her home. She is still home (her second week) having tested positive, but with mild symptoms.
Context, Context, Context. When a contagion is going around, it has to be considered when symptoms are presented that are known to reflective of it. It is at that time not a “general” case.
I have COPD, and mine ranges between 91 and 95. Below 90, breathing becomes more difficult. The problem is, as far as i know (and my Dr. concurs) there is no way to calibrate the cheaper pulse oximeters.
Of course. But in the example you gave the patient is not asymptomatic, nor is someone with a dry cough, and there is a pandemic. Many people present with blood clots as their first symptom of clotting problems it won’t be in their past history. If the oxygen is low it does not mean something is eating the O2. Ir usually means blood is being pumped to a part of the lungs unable to oxygenate it for example from an infection (Covid or other pneumonia), blood clot, fluid fro, congestive heart failure, or asthma/emphysema. There are other reasons as well. While Covid infection should always be considered its not the first or only thing that pops to mind in an asymptomatic individual with low oxygen. The worst thing you can do is assume everything is Covid and miss a different illness or condition, particularly when the Covid test takes days or even weeks to come back
“The worst thing you can do is assume everything is Covid and miss a different illness or condition”
No. Of course you might INVESTIGATE (not “assume”) other things, while waiting for a Covid-19 test result. I did not imply otherwise and find it silly to assume I did. But, when those clinical investigations come up empty, DURING THIS CONTAGION, you will have already found or cancelled out a Covid-19 infection with the simple test for it.
I’m no doctor either but...if this is true and that is the methodology behind Covid-19’s lethality...wouldn’t that seem to indicate that this virus WAS, in fact, manufactured? It doesn’t seem to be a naturally occurring type of thing.
FYI,I used to use an inhaler maybe twice a day but my bride bought an air purifier that runs while I sleep and I haven't used it since and ,oh yeah, I smoke a pack of Camel non filters a day and have for over 60 yrs.
You do know the covid test is currently taking between 2 days and 2 weeks to get results?
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