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The Curve Is Already Flat
Medium.com ^ | 4-3-20 | A.J. Kay

Posted on 04/05/2020 2:43:50 PM PDT by Valpal1

But there’s one data point being used in all of the prevailing models, including Imperial, that no one is talking about.

When did the COVID curve begin?

And it’s an important point. How can we interpret the data we currently have if we don’t know where on the time axis we actually are?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19
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To: Valpal1

In regards to the curve,...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States#CDC_reported_U.S._totals

2020-04-01 4,746
2020-04-02 5,821
2020-04-03 7,007
2020-04-04 8,352


41 posted on 04/05/2020 3:32:01 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: loucon

Move to a location west of the Pecos above 4000 ft. It might help. Nothing better than cool dry air without mosquitoes.


42 posted on 04/05/2020 3:37:26 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: tomkat

https://archive.is/omRp0

She posted this link on her twitter account.


43 posted on 04/05/2020 3:38:47 PM PDT by sjeann
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To: CatOwner
Since NOVEMBER


44 posted on 04/05/2020 3:47:51 PM PDT by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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To: HighSierra5

Which daily figure? Nationwide we had 1330 new deaths yesterday. 1045 new deaths the day before that, 974 new deaths April 2, 1049 new deaths April 1, 912 new deaths March 31, and 558 new deaths March 30. How do you know which daily figure to use when the number of new deaths is changing each day?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


45 posted on 04/05/2020 3:51:18 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Valpal1

Is the curve flattening out? Only if you look at it in logarithmic mode. In linear mode it still looks exponential to me.

https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?fbclid=IwAR2NQAFsqvbrVYvvkx59T8TNM1nmZJoaV8b-iKgGrKmXa-1DIRO-hUYF07c


46 posted on 04/05/2020 3:53:22 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: FormerFRLurker

New death? As opposed to an old death? Since they seem to be daily figures, wouldn’t it seem those were people who died for the first time and on those days.


47 posted on 04/05/2020 3:54:57 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: FormerFRLurker

My point exactly.


48 posted on 04/05/2020 4:05:17 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: stuckincali

Yes, when they say “new deaths” they mean the deaths that occurred on the day in question. This is different from the total number of deaths.


49 posted on 04/05/2020 4:10:41 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: sjeann; meatloaf
Thanks to you both   :)
50 posted on 04/05/2020 4:12:50 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Valpal1

I am all for antibody testing. They should make them like blood sugar meters. One stick and you can tell. Different sticks for different viruses.

That would be great.


51 posted on 04/05/2020 4:14:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Valpal1

And if the data is false...

“LIES, DAMNED LIES, and STATISTICS”


52 posted on 04/05/2020 5:20:04 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Valpal1

What if Covid was already here back then. It changes the assumptions substantially.


Whatever it was, it wasn’t COVID-19. It would have been identified in the x-ray and CT-scans, either as pneumonia checks, or just the coincidentally adjacent chest scans for other things.

It is quite distinctive, and no information from China would have been required.


53 posted on 04/05/2020 10:51:01 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: loucon

You have to remember that prior to that date, they weren’t looking for or testing for covid-19.


Nope, but it looks a lot like SARS (except usually in both lungs) and different from the flu, when x-rayed or CT-scanned. It would have been obvious.

Also, the Washington outbreak would not have subsided. The “community spread” cases would have been a much higher proportion of the positives, and they wouldn’t have had such a low rate of positives in February. Lots of other lines of evidence.


54 posted on 04/05/2020 10:56:10 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Salamander

That’s just silly.


55 posted on 04/05/2020 10:58:48 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Is it?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3823727/posts


56 posted on 04/05/2020 11:21:42 PM PDT by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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To: Salamander

It is, even without the confusing headline.

Illegal Immigrants in November are a general problem, but not a Wuhan coronavirus-related problem.


57 posted on 04/06/2020 6:01:16 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: CatOwner

Some in my family in Southern California think it was there as early as December. Certainly if October is the actual beginning in Wuhan, and travel to the U.S. from China was still in affect from October to ?????, earlier than believed entry of the virus to the U.S. is possible. With most Covid-19 infected persons being asymptomatic or with just mild symptoms, many people in late 2019 and Jan/Feb 2020 thinking they had the flu, could have had Covid-19 instead; never knew it and were never tested for it.


58 posted on 04/06/2020 7:47:41 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

The coworker/friend who visited our kid around December 18-20 was extremely ill. He had flown in from the Phoenix area, and we believe he had flown to Mountain View (CA) earlier on business and/or had coworkers from Mountain View fly to the Phoenix area. It was a tech company, so the exposure to international travelers is a given.

Right before Christmas our kid got sick, and for at least two days was not feeling well. Ended up with a residual cough that lasted for a while. The bad news is our kid slept the night at our house Christmas Eve. Somewhere between December 28-30, my wife got sick. Really sick. She believes she was sick with at least a mild fever for 7-10 days. Had residual energy issues for a while after.

Somewhere during my wife’s ordeal, I believe I had a bit of a fever one night. I don’t know for sure since I never took my temperature, and it was mostly overnight. Since my wife was out of it for a while, I was able to get extra sleep (in another room - she really was miserable). Between her and our kid, I’m sure I was exposed, but it appears I had the typical minor or non reaction to the virus.


59 posted on 04/06/2020 8:57:22 AM PDT by CatOwner
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