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Facts about Covid-19: Fully referenced facts about Covid-19, provided by experts in the field, to help readers make a realistic risk assessment (April 5,2020 Edition)
Swiss Propaganda Research ^ | 04/05/2020

Posted on 04/05/2020 10:50:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

April 5, 2020

Further notes


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; facts; propaganda

1 posted on 04/05/2020 10:50:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Seems like the media moved to the shock/pain-and-suffering scary symptoms strategy about a week ago... Chris Cuomo's snowflake descriptions of how awful it is. You wonder if he even has it and you wonder if he congratulates himself for his acting. Of course maybe he has it, and it's bad (for him.) But like with the Clintons, ONE of the main problems is, even if they weren't guilty every single time you though they were guilty, you ALWAYS had reason to suspect them.

I would not begrudge a moral government using a little extra fear to make sure a message got across ... but you simply can't trust the US government or really any government of men. With this government (I don't mean Trump's -> I mean modern day US government in general -> i.e. media in bed with entrenched leftist bureaucracy) ... You can't trust a word out of their mouths and often Trump seems to trust the people around him too much.

2 posted on 04/05/2020 11:03:23 AM PDT by tinyowl
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To: SeekAndFind

The rights of the individual versus the rights of the community during a public health crisis is an interesting question. Let us say for a moment that this current illness were a bit more deadly...would the current lockdown efforts be justified?

Are the current lock down efforts justified for this illness? What are the rights of the community versus the rights of the individual? Do individual rights trump community rights to survival?

This whole episode is rather surreal. It is like a slow moving train wreck without the train...


3 posted on 04/05/2020 11:03:33 AM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Doctors reporting all severe cases have BMI greater than 30 with diabetes.

Cuomo said today we are doing all this to protect a very small percentage of the population.

If you go on a ventilator you most likely are not going to recover.


4 posted on 04/05/2020 11:04:45 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been thinking the reason they want to get a knockout drug and continue the quarantine is that this virus has the potential to mutate into a virus that kills not just the “at risk” but healthy individuals. The malaria drug just masks the symptoms it does not stop the virus. That is what happened with the Spanish Flu. The more people that get this the more likely that the virus mutates. President Trump nor Dr. Fauci want to be left with that consequence as his responsibility. You can’t come out and say that because there would be a worse panic. I understand that because this virus originated from an animal that mutation is possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9FkNPRwt_M That is what happened with the Spanish Flu. The second wave that came in the fall was a mutated version spread by wartime troops. https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence
“As U.S. troops deployed en masse for the war effort in Europe, they carried the Spanish flu with them. Throughout April and May of 1918, the virus spread like wildfire through England, France, Spain and Italy. An estimated three-quarters of the French military was infected in the spring of 1918 and as many as half of British troops. Luckily, the first wave of the virus wasn’t particularly deadly, with symptoms like high fever and malaise usually lasting only three days, and mortality rates were similar to seasonal flu.

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Reported cases of Spanish flu dropped off over the summer of 1918, and there was hope at the beginning of August that the virus had run its course. In retrospect, it was only the calm before the storm. Somewhere in Europe, a mutated strain of the Spanish flu virus had emerged that had the power to kill a perfectly healthy young man or woman within 24 hours of showing the first signs of infection.
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Harris believes that the rapid spread of Spanish flu in the fall of 1918 was at least partially to blame on public health officials unwilling to impose quarantines during wartime. In Britain, for example, a government official named Arthur Newsholme knew full well that a strict civilian lockdown was the best way to fight the spread of the highly contagious disease. But he wouldn’t risk crippling the war effort by keeping munitions factory workers and other civilians home.”
I’m not medical so take it for what it is worth.


5 posted on 04/05/2020 11:09:53 AM PDT by PK1991
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To: SeekAndFind

Tough to take serious when the author doesn’t know the difference between a fact and an opinion.


6 posted on 04/05/2020 11:14:53 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: bramps

RE: Tough to take serious when the author doesn’t know the difference between a fact and an opinion.

Think of this site as citing opinions from other “experts” and citizen journalists who cover what’s happening on the ground.

As usual, exercise personal discernment.


7 posted on 04/05/2020 11:21:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

“What is known is that more than 647,000 people per year die from heart disease in this country, according to the CDC; and more than 599,000 die from cancer.
What is also obvious is that many if not most Americans are now living in fear of the newest disease to threaten in ways they never lived in fear of those old, established diseases.”

https://mustreadalaska.com/an-infection-of-fear/


8 posted on 04/05/2020 11:23:55 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: SeekAndFind

It could well be true that we’d be better off ignoring the virus, taking the quick hit of deaths, and moving on. But the country in no way has the stomach to do that. Maybe 40 years ago, maybe 60 years ago, but way too soft now. Not enough God, too much social media, too multicultural, too divided. Let’s be realistic, the do nothing approach was never going to happen here.


9 posted on 04/05/2020 11:30:46 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: SeekAndFind

For later read. Thanks for posting.


10 posted on 04/05/2020 11:51:44 AM PDT by matthew fuller (It is way past time to terminate the mandatory ethanol in gasoline.)
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To: Wayne07

Hell no- Never let a crisis go to waste!


11 posted on 04/05/2020 11:52:58 AM PDT by matthew fuller (It is way past time to terminate the mandatory ethanol in gasoline.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Take this lengthy explanation in small doses...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbjQ1sC0ahk

HOORAY Jon Rappaport. Thank you, sir.


12 posted on 04/05/2020 12:04:56 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: SeekAndFind
The interview with Dr. Knut Wittkowski is worth the 40 minutes.
13 posted on 04/05/2020 3:51:25 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: abigkahuna

“The rights of the individual versus the rights of the community during a public health crisis is an interesting question. Let us say for a moment that this current illness were a bit more deadly...would the current lockdown efforts be justified?”

I think the concept of imminent, likely, direct and severe threat comes into play in those sorts of dilemmas. Otherwise, you could move in the other direction, and argue that we’re all potentially silent carriers of the flu, with a small but finite chance of indirectly causing some old fellow to die. We could argue all of ourselves permanently into hermetically sealed bubbles, or worse, with that sort of logic.


14 posted on 04/05/2020 3:58:56 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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