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Corona Virus Daily Thread #37

Posted on 04/04/2020 9:58:25 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3831367/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavirus
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To: mrsmith

““Mitigation” is the course now though.”

Indeed, but we are still scaling it up.


361 posted on 04/05/2020 12:05:01 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel

IDK.
But seeing little talk of containment.


362 posted on 04/05/2020 12:10:12 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

A real hassle on a phone. I’m already getting “tennis thumb” from all the scrolling (my fault for not using desktop more).


363 posted on 04/05/2020 12:33:45 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks again for your hard work. Keep it here on every thread. Thanks.


364 posted on 04/05/2020 12:34:03 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: calenel
FluBros trying to claim they and everybody else had already had it, mostly.

Some are even claiming they got it well before Patient Zero. Everyone who has had cold or flu since November claims to have had the 'rona. Wait until this is over and the 'bros are telling their COVID War stories.

365 posted on 04/05/2020 12:43:14 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: steve86

Yeah, I get you.
Not a ‘phone guy’ myself.

It’s good info though.


366 posted on 04/05/2020 12:48:26 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ETCM
Some are even claiming they got it well before Patient Zero. Everyone who has had cold or flu since November claims to have had the 'rona. Wait until this is over and the 'bros are telling their COVID War stories.

That is part of the denial phase. Comforting oneself without a gossamer of evidence.
367 posted on 04/05/2020 1:26:19 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: LilFarmer

It has been accused on another thread that the curves for flu do not appear correct. For 2017-18, CDC says roughly 61,000 people died of the flu / complications. If I pick numbers for each week off the graph, I come up with around 20,000 to 25,000 fatalities for 2017-18.

Also, the timing of the flu peak in 2017-18 as depicted by the graph looks a bit off.

On the face of it, it appears the flu curve for 2017-18 needs to be about 3x higher. COVID-19 has still rocketed past it, but, to be more accurate:

Does anyone have actual CDC or other reliable source numbers for flu fatalities per week in the 2017-18 flu season? Please publish that table / list. (It should add up to ~61k fatalities.)

Then can someone on FR graph that data vs. COVID-19 and post it here?


368 posted on 04/05/2020 1:28:28 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: mrsmith

A year later..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNaAEJv_sDQ


369 posted on 04/05/2020 1:32:44 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Paul R.
A quick search on the 2017-18 flu brought up children's death charts, but most of the charts show percent of hospital stays, number of flu tests positive, etc.

All of the charts show a gradual increase at the beginning, a quick rise, and then a fairly rapid decrease at the end (due to warmer weather?). The various years show 15 to 20 weeks of the worst of it, with the peak at week 9 to 11.

You can approximate the “curve” with a box. Just run a flat line for 15 weeks at the number 4066 comes ups with 61,000 dead.

Although the actual curve would be interesting to see - and compare it to the CV-19 curve. I'm guessing that the CV curve would be much steeper and earlier.

The following is a very well done video comparing CV-19 with the other diseases since 2000. Video was updated with April 2 CV-10 information. Pretty scary stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz1bGzYdRdk

370 posted on 04/05/2020 1:46:50 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Just went through that for ten days myself.this is after i waited almost a year for the insurance check. the banks take amounted to about $23 in free interest that they got. Cost me thousands for ten days,banks suck.


371 posted on 04/05/2020 4:27:17 AM PDT by rodguy911
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To: Paul R.

Ronan explains in his first post regarding his comparison:

“For the past several years, I have been plotting and comparing week to week influenza mortality data gathered by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) mortality surveillance system. The number of coded flu deaths is only a part of the estimated flu deaths each week. I added US coronavirus deaths by week to the plot and got this:

(Image)

I know it’s not apples to apples, the estimated number of flu deaths is about 6 times higher than the numbers recorded by the NCHS, but there is every reason to believe that the actual number of coronavirus fatalities is also larger than the subset that gets confirmed. There has only been 4 weeks of data. Where is this going to end up?”

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/united-states-2019-ncov/842586-comparing-flu-and-covid-19-deaths#post842586


372 posted on 04/05/2020 5:25:12 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: Paul R.

You also need to go to the link I just gave you. The original chart that season appears much higher, he had to change the y axis to fit the amount of covid deaths.


373 posted on 04/05/2020 5:27:57 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: Fury
I guess the main point is - please stop trying to get people to comply with what *you* think it best for *them*

Look in the mirror.

374 posted on 04/05/2020 5:33:14 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Paul R.

Here is the source for his data:

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

The specific reason I do not post this chart on the FB thread is that they do not understand how then CDC calculates their numbers. Very few deaths are actually recorded as flu deaths, the rest are estimated. If you die from pneumonia from ANY cause, it gets lumped in to those stats.


375 posted on 04/05/2020 5:40:25 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: LilFarmer

https://www.kxan.com/news/national-news/puerto-rico-discovers-protective-supply-cache-amid-covid-19/

The suspected mismanagement of essential supplies during Hurricane Maria turned out to be a boon for Puerto Rico as it fights a rise in coronavirus cases.

Health Secretary Lorenzo González said Saturday that officials discovered a cache of urgently needed personal protective equipment at a hospital in the nearby island of Vieques that remains closed since the Category 4 storm hit the U.S. territory in September 2017.

He said the equipment includes face masks, gloves, gowns and face shields that were in good condition and would be distributed to health institutions.


376 posted on 04/05/2020 5:47:56 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: amorphous

The “recovery” part of the chart is not correct.

China’s numbers are total lies, and South Korea continues in lockdown.

What happens when the lockdown is lifted in South Korea?

It won’t be “recovery”.


377 posted on 04/05/2020 5:53:58 AM PDT by cgbg (Pattern recognition is the first sign of intelligence.)
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To: cgbg

Coral Princess ship docking in FL. Carnival needs to take responsibility for not cancelling cruises long ago. Severe fines or something.


378 posted on 04/05/2020 5:56:18 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: bgill
Look in the mirror.

LOL. I'm not the one telling people that trips are a waste of gas and to stay home.

I'd prefer that people be given information so they can make informed decisions that are best for their family so that they can minimize exposure.. You prefer otherwise. I'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.

379 posted on 04/05/2020 6:20:37 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Mariner

380 posted on 04/05/2020 6:21:16 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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