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Corona Virus Daily Thread #37

Posted on 04/04/2020 9:58:25 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3831367/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavirus
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To: 21twelve

“I wonder how far the virus and dust on her gown went into the hall and the equipment in the hallway?”

Good eye. I remember my NBC training for decom, we had to go through decom stations. Maybe the Hospitals need to practice Military NBC procedures. You suit up before going into the zone, then go through decom stations leaving the zone.

For you house make sure you do not use central air and heat. The unit could pull stuff in on the return then sent it to other parts of the house.

I have a camper we plan on for the sick, I will rope it off with caution tape, and only have one person to attend to the sick person. A burn barrel at the location for burning gloves and other waist.


321 posted on 04/04/2020 9:07:23 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: 21twelve; bgill

I have a design figured out if I have to care for a sick person in our house, with a “decon” area between the sick person and the rest of the house. (Using plastic sheeting).


Sounds similar to what bgill has in mind/designed.


322 posted on 04/04/2020 9:08:12 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Paul R.
Frost danger is almost gone...

Frost is always a concern in Idaho. I had leaves, flowers and the start of apples on my trees in early May last year. On May 18th we had an overnight low of +24F. The apples were wiped out. The plums,cherries and apricots bloomed later and yielded some fruit.

323 posted on 04/04/2020 9:14:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Mariner

i know, just so much misinformation out there, my health insurance co i work for makes sure all of their patients/members have the flu vaccine, and they include us imployee’s.


324 posted on 04/04/2020 9:17:22 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!at)
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To: mrsmith

“Report: China says it will ship France a billion face masks — but only if they buy their 5G equipment from Huawei:”

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1246625950789447681

So kind...


325 posted on 04/04/2020 9:21:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: MplsSteve

Wuhan Virus: “Wait, is this a human?”


326 posted on 04/04/2020 9:23:14 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

Wuhan Virus: “Wait, is this a human?”

LOL


327 posted on 04/04/2020 9:24:28 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

BTW.
LOVE Keith.
Best Stones was with Mick Taylor challenging Jagger, and Keith supporting Jagger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t87B4frtEh8


328 posted on 04/04/2020 9:29:07 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: amorphous

There you are!

US info is less useful as the half-dozen outbreaks emerge, but your graph still a guide.


329 posted on 04/04/2020 9:52:21 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: SE Mom

“But not with this - this separates us even while we go through it together. We’re in little caves even when we leave our homes.”

Heartbreaking.


330 posted on 04/04/2020 9:54:18 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: amorphous

“infuriates me”

As it does every thinking person.

Let me add my lamentation.


331 posted on 04/04/2020 9:56:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BobL

“The World Health Organization (WHO) still contends (in a report dated March 29) that current evidence shows that “COVID-19 virus is primarily transmitted between people through respiratory droplets and contact routes,” and that it can only become airborne during procedures or treatments that generate aerosols.”

Criminals.


332 posted on 04/04/2020 9:58:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“Primarily”... likely true.
But “fake news”.


333 posted on 04/04/2020 10:05:37 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

“Best Stones was with Mick Taylor challenging Jagger, and Keith supporting Jagger.”

great video of the stones.

Who could doubt they were and are, the Greatest Rock and Roll Band In The World.

But, as Keef has said of Mick Taylor:

“He’s a genius guitar player. But he is not a Rolling Stone. “


334 posted on 04/04/2020 10:17:18 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Mick Jagger is the center of the Stones.
Mick Taylor ‘taxed’ him.
I think it brought out Jagger’s best.
I can understand Keith didn’t see it that way.

‘Lots of good stuff from the Stones after Taylor left. Especially from Keith.


335 posted on 04/04/2020 10:22:59 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Mariner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAP1GHNuwQ8

For example...


336 posted on 04/04/2020 10:25:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

https://twitter.com/BaldingsWorld/status/124666381676870041
“Casual contact” vs sustained.


337 posted on 04/04/2020 10:44:29 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

“Really interesting. There is a growing body of research that shows a lot of evidence that casual contact has low probability of transmitting and less severe cases while sustained transmission (family member) has much higher and more severe. This matches the super spreader idea”


338 posted on 04/04/2020 10:47:24 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Drill down a bit. Death rate probably close to 1% in America.”

Still way too early.

I hope we are able to achieve 1% over the long haul. But right now our DCR is 2.8% and CFR is 41%. We need to do a lot better. We are still in the “low hanging fruit” phase in many of our myriad outbreaks, so the weak are dying off fast. Next phase is the long resolution period for many of the cases, some of whom will not make it. During that period the CFR and DCR will converge as the number of resolutions catches up to the total number of cases.

If we get an effective treatment the death rate could plummet (let’s pray this is the course we take) and the CFR and DCR converge somewhere below the 2.8%. If not, they will most likely converge somewhere in between, closer to the 2.8% number, but higher. If the HCS (or any of them individually) fails we get a sharp rise in deaths. We’ve seen this play out exactly this way in a number of countries, some of which is ongoing.

My current estimate of the total infected, including those in the incubation period, is just under 2%. This estimate includes generous assumptions favoring the FluBros. I believe the number is currently much smaller, but as more and more locations test only the more serious cases, the actual number will approach the estimates (ironically, estimate becomes more accurate over time as testing falls behind).

Containment is STILL key.


339 posted on 04/04/2020 10:56:24 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: cgbg

“There are only two kinds of people these days—those who are part of the solution, or those who are part of the problem.”

Concur.


340 posted on 04/04/2020 10:57:41 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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