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Corona Virus Daily Thread #25

Posted on 03/23/2020 9:51:15 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3827099/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 25; barr; birx; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; fauci; pence; trump; updates
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To: metmom

trump said Illinois is becoming a hotspot


321 posted on 03/23/2020 4:11:16 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I’d speculate it’s Chicagoland, with a busy airport and dense population.


322 posted on 03/23/2020 4:12:56 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Black Agnes

Test all the altarboys.

I wonder how many other bishops caught it from him.

Or if any Cardinals can bring it back to the Vatican.


323 posted on 03/23/2020 4:14:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Robert DeLong
"I am comparing the 2 to show that the flu is far more contagious and deadly, but no one is freaking out over the flu."


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324 posted on 03/23/2020 4:14:42 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: metmom

GA up to 800 cases and 26 deaths.


325 posted on 03/23/2020 4:15:59 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Mariner

Link, source?
Want verification here.


326 posted on 03/23/2020 4:18:47 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“We have it from a plugged-in local source that Washington State Governor Jay Inslee is expected to initiate a shelter-in-place order at 5:30 PDT (1.5 hours from now).”

There was an article about all of the crowds out at the beaches and parks enjoying the nice weather over the weekend. Bunch of idiots - and now ruin it for everyone.


327 posted on 03/23/2020 4:18:59 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: cgbg

While vast majority of deaths from #COVID19 are age 60+ many young adults and middle aged Americans are becoming seriously ill and surviving only after prolonged hospitalizations and ICU admissions that have long term consequences. This is a dangerous virus for most age groups.

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1242219771778785281

Chart at link: The “Boris rule” data—would save about two thirds of ICU beds—so that is worth a couple of weeks for the ICUs.

So, it is not a crazy idea, but it will still fail fairly quickly.


328 posted on 03/23/2020 4:19:18 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: bgill

What if Fauci was a Hillary plant? He has an evil, too-smug look in his eyes. And a long-time Swampie.


329 posted on 03/23/2020 4:20:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Want verification here.”

for what?


330 posted on 03/23/2020 4:21:01 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Robert DeLong

Thanks Robert, maybe you should read my reply to you again. I am not afraid of this, I go out to work every day among the uninformed. I perform decontamination of everything I touch multiple times daily, just as I learned in the Army long ago.

Do you see me spreading panic? If you do, you are the one who is afraid of current events. I only converse with the others here about data we see on outside sites, and I tend to pass along on the ground events from inside China that the MSM can’t - or won’t - give you.

I have been saying this is a weapon for two months. I understand why President Trump doesn’t declare it as such, as that would require a world devastating nuclear response. I see quite clearly from inside China that the less lethal variant of the virus was released there, and Italy/Iran received the weapons grade finished product. IMO the release of this was premature, most likely thru the sale of a test animal at the market, or the escape of one of them. October came early.

Those who cherry pick the death rate of this are with disingenuous or CCP trolls. The most devastating effect of this will be to either our health care system or our banking system depending upon our approach toward mitigation. If Trump plays FluBro and lets it run amok, our HCS collapses in many areas and the idiots panic en masse. If we social distance and slow the infection cycle, maybe - hopefully - we can bring about an effective treatment in that window of opportunity.

Social distancing is difficult for attention and activity starved folks, or for those who value their stock portfolio more than the lives of others. Sorry for the first, zero f_cks given about the latter.

I’ve got months worth of money, food, medicine, guns and ammo. The last thing I am is panicked. And you, sir, are one of the occasional trolls on this thread.


331 posted on 03/23/2020 4:21:15 PM PDT by datura
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To: Mariner
For your statement that this virus has mutated and grown more virulent.

That kind of thing has happened (Spanish Flu of 1918). But I haven't yet seen anyone else claim it of this virus.

332 posted on 03/23/2020 4:22:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: metmom
It is a comparable time period. Flu season is from Oct. thru May, but Dec. thru April are when most flu cases are contracted. We are currently in our 5th month for this virus if the Nov date of this starting is accurate. So the flu has only had one month on this flu. But I am not comparing the two for any other reason than to quell panic & hysteria.

Just because this virus is a new strain, and even perhaps a bio-engineered one, it belongs to a family named Coronaviridae. So it is not like we do not have similar viruses to compare it to, AIDS being one and SARS being another, which is why it is also called SARS2 CoVid-19. There are really promising signs that we already have drugs within our arsenal that have had reported promising results with this viral strain.

I have yet to see panic & hysteria solve anything, let alone a viral entity. So why is everyone reacting this way? It does nothing to facilitate combating this. But if we allow fear to destroy our economy we will damage a lot more people. To what end is that useful?

333 posted on 03/23/2020 4:25:28 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Solson; MplsSteve

I agree. Minnesota is a big state. I’m pretty sure most of its counties don’t even have a single confirmed case.


334 posted on 03/23/2020 4:25:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Robert DeLong

Show me ONE panic reply in here besides your own, Robert.


335 posted on 03/23/2020 4:27:07 PM PDT by datura
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To: grey_whiskers

We know there are at least two varieties, -L and -S.
Somebody here has a link for that. I don’t. But I suspect you can find that for yourself too.

But the death rate in Italy has been above everyone else.


336 posted on 03/23/2020 4:27:57 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Robert DeLong

Want someone to draw you a picture?

Oh wait . . .


337 posted on 03/23/2020 4:29:06 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: datura

Harris Poll: U.S. Seniors Are Least Worried And Least Informed About COVID-19 But Most At Risk

A new survey suggests the population most vulnerable to COVID-19 is also the group that’s least worried and also least informed: senior citizens.

According to the survey, conducted by The Harris Poll, only 47% of U.S. adults over the age of 60 are worried about dying from the novel coronavirus despite being the most at risk. That lack of worry is a stark contrast to the actual statistics of COVID-19 patients, where health officials say patients over 80 have a fatality rate of 15% compared to the average overall case fatality rate of 2.3%. (For comparison, 57% of millennials surveyed also fear dying from the virus.)

Seniors don’t only think they’re not at risk of dying, but also believe they’re not likely to catch COVID-19 at all. According to the nationally representative survey of 2,000 adults conducted between March 5 and March 9, 77% of adults over the age of 65 think they’re “unlikely” to catch the coronavirus based on their daily habits compared to 67% of millennials.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/martyswant/2020/03/13/harris-poll-us-seniors-are-least-worried-and-least-informed-about-covid-19-but-most-at-risk/#76a8953b2f32


338 posted on 03/23/2020 4:30:57 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: In_Iowa_not_from
Leibowitz believes it is likely a result of the body’s immune system trying desperately to stop the virus, causing massive inflammation throughout the heart and lungs and, in some cases, damaging other organs as well. https://www.theeagle.com/news/national/there-s-a-lot-we-don-t-know-uw-researchers/article_4791b57c-6058-5913-85e6-4fbb72d00156.html
339 posted on 03/23/2020 4:32:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Mariner

The Spain death rate has been very high as well—and they seem like they are lower on the curve than Italy.

Italy deaths total: 6,077
Spain deaths total: 2,311

Italy deaths today: 601
Spain deaths today: 539

Italy population: 62M
Spain population: 49M


340 posted on 03/23/2020 4:33:52 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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