Posted on 03/23/2020 8:40:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Margaret Novins talked to me on her cellphone from a hospital bed at CentraState Medical Center in Freehold, N.J.
She had been ill since March 8, toughing it out through fatigue, a cough and fevers that brought on vicious chills for five evenings straight.
Finally, on March 15, she went to an urgent care center and, on March 16, to an emergency room. The attending there called it “conversational dyspnea.”
“I couldn’t breathe,” she said.
Novins, who shared her lab tests and medication list, got her diagnosis March 19. Next to the entry for SARS-CoV-2 were the words “Detected Critical.” She had the coronavirus, or COVID-19.
To that point, Novins had been a pneumonia patient for three days, treated mainly with antibiotics. But within an hour, a new drug was added to her med list: hydroxychloroquine, a decades-old malaria-turned-autoimmune drug, also called by its brand name Plaquenil. President Trump is touting the drug, some say overselling it, as the possible answer to the COVID-19 crisis.
Novins’ responded to the treatment. She was better, though surely not well, the next day.
“The fever,” which was still spiking when she was on other meds, “is now gone, which is fantastic,” she said on Saturday March 21, coughing at times but able to speak.
A 53-year-old nurse who described herself as a nonsmoker with no medical issues, Novins spoke to me from the hospital that had cared for some of the seven members of a family ravaged by COVID; two adult brothers, a sister and their mother died from the infection.
“The doctor insisted the pharmacy get it to me the minute we got the positive,” she said of hydroxychloroquine. “It seemed like their go-to right away.”
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BTW, when I was a kid working at the pharmacy I would see prescriptions for Plaquenil come through all the time. My Mom took it for Rheumatoid Arthritis but you can only take it for three months at a time.
Don’t really understand how it works for CV since it suppresses the immune system. Mongo only pawn in game of life though.
Anyway, it is on the WHO list of essential medicines that are “the safest and most effective medicines needed in a health system.”
Nope, not approved by FDA for use on CV, it may be dangerous.
Trump should be sending Pelosi’s A/F plane to Korea 2x / week to pick some 100,000s of test kits each trip.
They apparently have more test kit manufacturing capability than we do.
On the first trip they can take her and leave her. Shouldn’t be too hard to get her on the plane. Just load it with booze she’ll hop right on.
People have died in less than 3 days after presenting symptoms.
I looked up "conversational dyspnea" which I believe means "shortness of breath while talking."
Conversational Dyspnea
July 4, 2019If the patient is conversationally dyspneic at the time of a telemedicine encounter, refer them on for immediate evaluation and treatment.
Briefly check to see if they are having any other symptoms that would trigger a recommendation for a 9-1-1 call and then tell them they need to see a clinicians “right now.”
Some telemedicine service providers will hassle you over this, criticizing you for not triaging the patient fully before making the call.
Outside of having typical chest pain, there is no additional information you can glean which will change the recommendation for immediate medical evaluation.
This should really go without saying, but it’s amazing how many clinicians will even document conversational dyspnea and then treat the patient in place.
If they can’t breathe now, assume they won’t be able to breathe later, even if you give them a strong dose of oral steroids. That treatment will take 12-24 hours to work, who knows what trouble they can get in by then.
RE: Don’t really understand how it works for CV since it suppresses the immune system. Mongo only pawn in game of life though.
Here is how it works according to Dr. William Grace, Oncologist at Lenox Hill Hospital, NY ( this is according to what he said in an interview with Laura Ingraham ):
Older people, who tend to be the fatal victims of Covid-19, have MATURE immune systems. So, when the Covid-19 virus attacks the body, since it is a NOVEL invader, their immune system tends to over-react powerfully causing severe autoimmune reactions.
Chloroquine ( of which Plaquenil is a variety ) serves to suppress the immune over-reaction so that it can help the body fight the disease.
See interview and explanation here:
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143589956001#sp=show-clips
Hahahahahahahaha!
Thanks. Cytokene Storm suppression in other words. Sort of suspected as much.
/s Gosh, suppressing that sounds like it could be a disaster so the FDA is just protecting us from ourselves. /s
Chinese Bat Soup Virus.
“A five-day treatment course would cost approximately $12,” Boulware said.”
Lol. That should give the AMA/FDA/Pharma buddypal system fits. Life saving treatments are supposed to bankrupt you.
It wasn’t her family that died of the virus. She was being treated at the same hospital where a different family had members that died.
misread of course.
Wu Flu
Kung Flu
Chicom Flu
It also let’s zinc into cells, and that is why it works - the zinc kills it.
cnn’s anderson cooper interviewed dr. sanjay gupta (repeat interviewee) about hcq. gupta sides with fauci against trump and labels hcq’s effectiveness against covid-19 as anecdotal.
The number I've seen for their total testing was 290,000.
"At first, Seegene struggled to meet demand, but now it is coping. The firm is making about 10,000 kits a week and each kit can test 100 patients. So it is making enough to test one million patients each week, at a cost of under $20 per test. "
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/asia/coronavirus-south-korea-testing-intl-hnk/index.html
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