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San Gabriel Man Dies After Experiencing Flu-Like Symptoms, Widow Says He Was Never Tested For Coronavirus
cbs los angeles ^ | 3/20/2020 5:02PM

Posted on 03/22/2020 5:56:40 PM PDT by SteveH

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) — A San Gabriel man died Monday after experiencing flu-like symptoms, but his widow said doctors never tested him for the novel coronavirus despite his worsening symptoms.

Julio Ramirez was 43, a father of two and the picture of health, according to his wife Julie Murillo.

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To: lee martell

FWIW, urgent care in my neck of the woods means doc-in-a-box, or a PA at one of the local hospital’s clinics.

I wouldn’t take anyone with difficulty breathing to either.


21 posted on 03/22/2020 7:08:07 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: SteveH

KAISER. If they are all my coverage provided, I would pay out of pocket for a Quality MD especially if I was really sick.


22 posted on 03/22/2020 7:10:20 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: SteveH

He got seriously crappy health care that killed him. Poor guy. No question he was killed by lousy health care. His family can’t get him back, but if this happened like this story, they will get a chuck out of Kaiser. This is definitely wrongful death.


23 posted on 03/22/2020 7:13:51 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: metmom

You don’t say how long ago this was. Likely at the time the criteria was flu symptoms AND contact with someone who was positive or someone from China. She should be tested for antibodies still in her system, but given her history with the CA medical system as reported by you it sounds like they would refuse. But if flu systems reoccur she needs to demand a test.


24 posted on 03/22/2020 7:16:27 PM PDT by CedarDave (Wash your hands like you just peeled a sack of green chile and need to take out your contact lenses.)
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To: shanover

The virus is scary to me. The prospect of not being able to breathe is quite scary


25 posted on 03/22/2020 7:43:45 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: CedarDave

Late Feb.


26 posted on 03/22/2020 7:44:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SteveH

It’s when enough people are immune to something that it slows down the transmission because there’s no very many people to infect to spread it.

Then the people who do not have immunity from it are somewhat protected because the disease has to find one of them to infect instead of burning out on those already immune. If the sick individual only encounters immune people the disease stops there.

The chances of an uninfected person encountering it first is lessened, and if they do get it, it’s not likely to spread far or fast because it can only spread through people who are not immune.

There may be more to it, but that’s it as I understand it.


27 posted on 03/22/2020 7:50:46 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SteveH
"the picture of health"

Where's the picture?
28 posted on 03/22/2020 8:13:27 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SteveH

[Julio was traveling back from a business trip on Sunday morning March 8th from Indiana when he realized he not feeling well with flu-like symptoms. On Monday he called Kaiser to try to make an appointment with a doctor. The doctor called and diagnosed Julio with flu and prescribed medicine. He was not feeling better so he called and emailed to see a doctor. No return calls or response of any kind. ]


This is the kind of patient for whom Trump made his quinine derivative announcement. Some doctors either don’t give a damn or aren’t on the ball. Ask for chloroquine and the doc might prescribe it. If he doesn’t, find a different doctor and insist. Keep shopping around until someone relents.


29 posted on 03/22/2020 8:14:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: metmom

aha, now i understand. thanks.


30 posted on 03/22/2020 8:16:32 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: Troublemaker
if the wife wrote that, her grasp of English is not very good and a communication barrier might be the reason they did not look deeper into this case.....I don't know....

but we are on our own for sure.....I really wonder what the xray showed.....

31 posted on 03/22/2020 8:22:36 PM PDT by cherry
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To: metmom

Same with my sister. She’s in NY, very public position, could have infected thousands in December.


32 posted on 03/22/2020 9:56:32 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: metmom

(Nods to herd immunity.)
But not the way I’d want to go about it.


33 posted on 03/23/2020 12:16:46 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SteveH

He thought it was the flu. Oops! And how many 43 year olds die from catching coronavirus?’

A guy who was the picture of perfect health.


34 posted on 03/23/2020 6:37:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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