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San Gabriel Man Dies After Experiencing Flu-Like Symptoms, Widow Says He Was Never Tested For Coronavirus
cbs los angeles ^ | 3/20/2020 5:02PM

Posted on 03/22/2020 5:56:40 PM PDT by SteveH

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) — A San Gabriel man died Monday after experiencing flu-like symptoms, but his widow said doctors never tested him for the novel coronavirus despite his worsening symptoms.

Julio Ramirez was 43, a father of two and the picture of health, according to his wife Julie Murillo.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


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what type of assurances should we seek in advance of urgent need from our local hospitals/health care providers??
1 posted on 03/22/2020 5:56:40 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

I thought CA said they weren’t going to test for it


2 posted on 03/22/2020 5:58:45 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: SteveH

The flu killed 70,000 in America in 2019.


3 posted on 03/22/2020 5:58:49 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: SteveH

And? Oh you mean start panicking??


4 posted on 03/22/2020 5:58:51 PM PDT by max americana (Fired ONE libtard at work at every election since 2008 because I enjoy them crying)
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To: SteveH

She took someone with difficulty breathing to an urgent care instead of an ER?


5 posted on 03/22/2020 5:59:39 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/our-amazing-friend-julio-ramirez

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Our amazing friend Julio Ramirez lost his life tragically from an unknown illness on March 16, 2020, leaving behind his wife and 2 sons. Julio was just 43 years old.

Julio was traveling back from a business trip on Sunday morning March 8th from Indiana when he realized he not feeling well with flu-like symptoms. On Monday he called Kaiser to try to make an appointment with a doctor. The doctor called and diagnosed Julio with flu and prescribed medicine. He was not feeling better so he called and emailed to see a doctor. No return calls or response of any kind. On Friday His wife Julie took him to urgent care at Kaiser Hospital-Downey. He was very week, had to be wheel-chaired and was having difficulty breathing. He was checked in and was told by the receptionist that a doctor would be calling him. They waited and eventually a doctor called him on the phone He told the doctor how he was having difficulty breathing and feeling very week. The doctor sent him for a chest X-ray, said it sounded like pneumonia and would have a prescription ready for him at the pharmacy. Not the doctor or anyone at urgent care took his vitals or addressed the fact that he was having difficulty breathing. The only one who even looked at him was the X-ray technician who took the chest X-ray. Julio asked what he saw and the technician responded to call his doctor within a week. A week will be this Thursday and Julio passed away in his sleep on Monday morning. He can’t call for results on Thursday as he is no longer with us.

Julio was a loving husband, father, son, and brother and a dear and caring friend to all who knew him. We all are grieving at our premature loss of a truly great man. Please help us raise money to support his funeral costs and to support his wife and 2 sons.


6 posted on 03/22/2020 6:04:18 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: SteveH

RIP.


7 posted on 03/22/2020 6:13:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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This sounds like malpractice to me but it’s hard to tell if it’s that or if they were just following California’s highly regulated medical process.


8 posted on 03/22/2020 6:17:28 PM PDT by Skywise
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what type of assurances should we seek in advance of urgent need from our local hospitals/health care providers??

None.

They cannot offer anything except bland reassurances which mean absolutely nothing. Your typical Family Care Clinic will be useless in an acute respiratory crisis. They might be able to get you an appointment in two weeks time.

An Urgent Care Center can be a good place to start. At least they will still see patients and make a preliminary diagnosis. If you are not leaving the U.C.C. with an immediately effective remedy, you should be leaving with a referral to the nearest Hospital ER - which should be your next stop.

Been there, done that.

9 posted on 03/22/2020 6:25:30 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: SteveH

We saw many reports like that coming from individuals in Wuhan a few weeks ago. Then the Chinese government cut off VPNs being used there.


10 posted on 03/22/2020 6:33:11 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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This sounds like malpractice to me

It is not.

Doctors are heavily regulated and closely supervised by Corporate and Government staff. The directives under which actual medical providers must work are often written by bureaucrats who have no competence to make medical decisions. You are seeing one of the results in this case.

You are on your own in this system. You must learn quickly when to escalate demands and when to back off, in order to protect your health and that of your family.

11 posted on 03/22/2020 6:35:05 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: mewzilla

Many times they are very similar, especially if you are a walk-in, or need a same day appointment.
The pace may be faster in an E-Room, but not always by much.
One difference, Urgent Care might turn a patient away if they have zero insurance or ability to pay.
I don’t think most E-Rooms could do that.


12 posted on 03/22/2020 6:40:29 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: SteveH
Murillo said her husband started getting sick last Monday after traveling domestically through Los Angeles International Airport. She said he told her that he sat next to someone who was coughing.

And he got if from that passenger (went actively sick) in one day?

13 posted on 03/22/2020 6:46:13 PM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: SteveH

My daughter thinks she had it. She could trace the illness back to someone who had come in from China through a number of acquaintances.

They all had the classic symptoms, all within the correct incubation period.

Several of them went for testing and they were all refused because they could not prove they had direct contact with someone who has tested positive for the virus.

The CDC has screwed this up royally.

And I think far more people have had it than we know about.

When I consider those six people likely had it, and recovered just fine thank God, I’ll bet the actual infection rate is far higher than we know.

Which means that far more people than we know are immune to it, and the herd immunity is starting to build.


14 posted on 03/22/2020 6:51:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: 2banana

Sigh....WTF.....I am letting this ride. Unfortunately,I think virus is not as scary to me.


15 posted on 03/22/2020 6:51:57 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: SteveH

Translation: Trump Killed Him.


16 posted on 03/22/2020 6:52:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

See post 14.

They aren’t testing for it.

My daughter could not get tested when she had all the symptoms and she lives in LA (unfortunately)


17 posted on 03/22/2020 6:52:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Skywise

Welcome to government run health care.


18 posted on 03/22/2020 6:53:56 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mewzilla
It's Kaiser; though really surprised his doctor was in Downey and not Baldwin Park.

Not enough good information about symptoms, but Indiana was a nexus for Influenza B/Victoria the week he was there; could be either.

19 posted on 03/22/2020 6:55:40 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: metmom

not certain i know what herd immunity is and how it pertains with covid-19 (my ignorance)...


20 posted on 03/22/2020 6:58:07 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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