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The Latest Knowledge On COVID-19 Suggests Most Of Us Will Be Fine
The Federalist ^ | 03/18/2020 | Chuck Devore

Posted on 03/18/2020 7:48:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Mounting evidence suggests that if you don’t smoke or aren’t 70 or older or have underlying health conditions, you’ll be fine—although you can spread it to other, more vulnerable people.


The latest information on Coronavirus COVID-19, also known as the Wuhan Flu, from Johns Hopkins University shows widely varying numbers of confirmed cases and apparent mortality rates by nation.

The People’s Republic of China, the virus’ epicenter, was reporting 81,058 cases as of March 17 with 3,230 deaths, with 4.0 percent of those diagnosed subsequently dying. Italy is similarly hard hit, with 31,506 cases and 2,503 deaths for a mortality rate of 7.9 percent of those diagnosed.

Yet South Korea, a nation with frequent, direct contact with people from China, is only showing 8,320 cases of COVID-19 with 81 deaths, a rate of 1.0 percent—likely not too different than can be expected every year from common influenza if one considers the many mild cases who didn’t present to medical personnel.

Different Countries, Different Results

So, why the huge differences in diagnosed cases and mortality, and what does that mean for America? Important factors to consider are government (both competence and transparency), the state of the health-care system (the number of people tested and its critical care system), and the affected population (its age and health).

A stark example of this can be seen in the two Koreas, one free and prosperous, the other enslaved and poor. South Korea’s 8,320 confirmed cases of the Wuhan Flu contrast with none in North Korea.

This is a pathogenic impossibility. The COVID-19 numbers out of North Korea are not to be believed for the same reason the survival rate for any North Korean who criticizes paramount leader Kim Jong-un approaches zero: the government controls all information on penalty of death.

Similarly, the People’s Republic of China has a casual association with the truth related to a virus that was first diagnosed in and around the city of Wuhan in Hubei province. In December, Li Wenliang, a Chinese ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital, used the WeChat app to warn the medical community about what he thought was an outbreak of a SARS-like (severe acute respiratory syndrome) illness.

SARS is a coronavirus. Li was quickly contacted by police, who admonished him to “stop making false comments.” He was subsequently investigated for “spreading rumors.” Within four days he was ordered to appear at the Public Security Bureau, where he had to sign a false confession that he “severely disturbed the social order.” Local officials later apologized to Li, just before he died from the virus.

At the same time, some 100 miles across the Taiwan Strait, the freely elected Taiwanese government has reported 77 confirmed cases of COVID-19 with one death. Had Taiwan suffered a similar infection level and reported death rate as on mainland China, it would be reporting about 1,400 cases and 56 deaths.

The reporting out of China suggests the Chinese Communist Party is artificially pushing the new infections rate down, reporting fewer than 1,000 new cases in the past two weeks while the number of cases reported worldwide exceeded that in China on March 15 at 81,700 and is now rising rapidly. It is highly likely that the total infections numbers out of China cannot be trusted. In fact, Chinese authorities have been highly effective in preventing independent reporting out of Wuhan, forcing the outside world to rely solely on Beijing’s word.

So, should Americans be worried? Mounting evidence suggests that if you don’t smoke or aren’t 70 or older or have underlying health conditions, you’ll be fine—although you can spread it to other, more vulnerable people.

Risk Factors Vary by Person and Country

Some 319 million people in China smoke, about 23 percent of the population. In Italy, 19 percent of the population smokes. In South Korea, 40.7 percent of the male population smokes compared to 6.4 percent of the females. By comparison, about 37.8 million Americans smoke—18 percent of men and 14 percent of women.

Italy’s mortality numbers are further burdened by agedness. Italy has one of the oldest populations in the world, with almost 60 percent of Italians aged 40 and up and a national average age of 46. The median age in the United States is 38.2 years.

Even so, conflicting reports out of Italy suggest there may only be two people who died from the coronavirus who did not also present other pathologies. This, as Silvio Brusaferro, the president of the Higher Institute of Health in Rome, noted that, “Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years—80.3 to be exact—and are essentially predominantly male.” Only 25.8 percent of deaths attributed to the virus were women.

Lastly, when the virus makes Americans sick enough to seek medical attention, there’s one more advantage we have: the U.S. has almost three times the critical care beds per capita as does Italy, more than triple what South Korea has (where the death rate may be close to that of the flu, depending the number of mild, undiagnosed cases), and almost 10 times that in China.

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Even as the Trump administration and state and local officials enact prudent measures and provide guidance to mitigate the rapid spread of the virus, coronavirus-induced panic may be overwrought. America will emerge just fine after the epidemic passes, and with some lasting benefits: a greater acceptance of telecommuting and distance learning.

Don’t Believe the Hype or Misinformation

Even so, there are troubling developments from unexpected quarters: both rumors and official misinformation seeking to blame America for the virus. When the virus was still largely confined to Wuhan, China, Islamists said it showed the “power of God” striking communists because “China declared war on Islam and Muslims and persecuted our brothers Uyghurs.”

In the Islamic Republic of Iran, the nation with the third-highest number of reported cases, 16,169, an Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps general said the coronavirus might be a U.S. biological weapon aimed at Iran and China.

More worrisome, this theme has been picked up by Chinese government officials. Last week, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesman, Zhao Lijian, tweeted that the U.S. Army could be responsible for starting the epidemic in Wuhan during the Military World Games held from Oct. 18 through 27.

This propaganda outburst led to a rare dressing down by U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who warned China against promoting “outlandish rumors.” A State Department spokeswomen noted Pompeo “conveyed strong U.S. objection to [China’s] efforts to shift blame for COVID-19 to the United States” with his counterpart in Beijing. Last week the State Department summoned China’s ambassador to the United States to its headquarters to admonish him for his government spreading conspiracy theories.

Since then, word has leaked of Chinese state-run news (there is no other kind) showing the video of a man purported to be a U.S. soldier removing his facemask, sticking his finger in his mouth, then stroking a handhold. The Communist regime shows no sign of turning away from the contention that the United States purposefully infected China. This is why President Trump pointedly called the coronavirus the “Chinese virus.”

The People’s Republic of China’s burgeoning line of disinformation accusing the United States of being the origin of the deadly virus could be a casus belli. Lies often create a terrible logic of their own. Beijing’s lies have amplified the virus’ suffering and death and may, in their own right, prove far deadlier than the virus that emerged out of Wuhan.


Chuck DeVore is vice president of national initiatives at the Texas Public Policy Foundation and served in the California State Assembly from 2004 to 2010.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: chinavirusinfo; coronavirus; covid19
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1 posted on 03/18/2020 7:48:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It is really only a problem for those with autoimmune conditions.


2 posted on 03/18/2020 7:51:03 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Jonty30

It’s a problem for:

The elderly
People with existing heart and lung conditions
Those with compromised immune systems (chemo, HIV, etc.)


3 posted on 03/18/2020 7:52:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind

No way, we’re all going to die!


4 posted on 03/18/2020 8:02:37 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Jonty30

Such views fail to account for the effects of the healthcare system being overwhelmed by a massive influx of critically ill coronavirus patients. If that occurs, others will also suffer as they lose access to essential medical care. That happened in Italy, which is why Trump and federal officials amped up their rhetoric and counter-measures.


5 posted on 03/18/2020 8:06:17 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: SeekAndFind

South Korean kimchi kills it maybe cos imports of kimchi to USA are backordered.


6 posted on 03/18/2020 8:06:51 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: SeekAndFind

It is true that almost 99 percent of those tested come back negative. The problem is going to be keeping it that way with all these selfish dumba$$es running around infecting everybody.


7 posted on 03/18/2020 8:08:53 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: Jonty30
I was told 500,000 deaths, dammit!

How can I justify panicking and shutting down my business now?

8 posted on 03/18/2020 8:11:11 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SeekAndFind

Again. It is really simple.

We all must work together to ensure our healthcare system is not overwhelmed. If that happens we are all f*cked.

This isn’t about whether or not you personally get ill.

The President has asked us to work with him to win this thing. I trust him. And will do whatever is asked of me. For my country.

Suck it up and let’s roll.


9 posted on 03/18/2020 8:12:16 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Tracking the Coronavirus: How Crowded Asian Cities Tackled an Epidemic (Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan)
New York Times ^ | March 17 2020 | Hanna Beech Posted on 3/17/2020, 10:16:30 PM by rintintin
Two hours. That’s all the time medical teams in Singapore are given to uncover the first details of how patients contracted the coronavirus and which people they might infect.

The NYS (slimes) did not go into what Singapore was doing but these postings did explain what and how it was doing which is well worth a look.


post #7
I don’t know if there is a “Trump sucks” angle, but my sister in law lives in Singapore. This is for real. They have people assigned at entrances with hand held infra-red heat guns. She said she was scanned 5 times just today. Anyo e who get hot they are inquisition to find out who they have been with? How long they felt like this? If they ever coughed in public do. Wwho? Their shelves in stores are full and there is no pani, from what she says. This is a very effective and organized way to handle the crisis. This is Priminister Lee speech to Singapore population on what they learned from the Sars outbreak to deal with this. Trump (and I love him) could learn a lot from Singapore.
7 posted on 3/17/2020, 10:40:11 PM by Bommer


My brother is living and working in Singapore. Has to get scanned several times a day.I was telling people that they could scan a crowd and see who is hot and cull that person. I’m not sure why NYC etc is not using this technology
19 posted on 3/18/2020, 12:14:56 AM by tinamina


10 posted on 03/18/2020 8:12:39 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: Rockingham
Such views fail to account for the effects of the healthcare system being overwhelmed by a massive influx of critically ill coronavirus patients.

And yet somehow the system manages to handle flu season which killed an estimated 70,000 people in the USA two years ago, and 200,000 during H1N1 epidemic. So far we have about 100 coronavirus deaths and it is doubtful that we would have made it to more than a few thousand even without the government shutting down the country causing trillions of dollars in financial losses and increased government debt. This is bureaucratic insanity in response to a media circus at its worst.

11 posted on 03/18/2020 8:16:09 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: All

What I’m having a problem with is trying to understand why NYC is such a hot spot for this disease.

Demographically, who’s getting it? Age 60 and up? Primarily those of Asian or Middle Eastern ethnicity?

How many are asymptomatic vs symptomatic?

In addition, how many of these were people who travelled overseas or had close contact with someone who did vs a contracting it community-wise.


12 posted on 03/18/2020 8:22:41 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: eastexsteve
The problem is going to be keeping it that way with all these selfish dumba$$es running around infecting everybody.

Except that it wasn't actually happening before our entire system was shut down and is not actually happening. On the Diamond Princess, the ship quarantined off the coast of Japan for weeks, only 17% of the people on the ship tested positive and half of those had no symptoms.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/

The problem is all the dumba$$es that let themselves get bamboozled by the media and the Democrats who forced the President to try and get in front of this parade of fools.

13 posted on 03/18/2020 8:24:49 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: SeekAndFind

How many times have I read posts here going ape-sh*t on here about comments from people like Bloomberg and Obama that sick elderly people should just be given pain-killers and allowed to die? All of a sudden there seems to be a bit of agreement on that concept.

Yeah, Novel Corona Virus mostly kills the unproductive elderly, the useless eaters. What’s the big deal?


14 posted on 03/18/2020 8:25:00 AM PDT by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: mosesdapoet

Maybe not allowed due to scanning your eyes by accident might injure retina?


15 posted on 03/18/2020 8:32:20 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever. my)
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To: fireman15

“This is bureaucratic insanity in response to a media circus at its worst.”

Amen! We’d be doing a lot better if they simply shut down cable 24/7 news....

That, and we’ve turned into a nation of wimps! Apart from what I’ve read on FreeRepublic, I have yet to meet a panicked conservative. Being past 60, I mostly know older folks and, oddly enough, it isn’t the old folks who are panicking!


16 posted on 03/18/2020 8:32:39 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Rockingham

You raise a valid point.

Suffer a heart attack when the hospitals are at 101% capacity and you become a death statistic too.

Sadly it makes no economic sense to have a healthcare system constantly at the ready for 100 year events.


17 posted on 03/18/2020 8:32:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind

The US has more critical care beds per capita than any country in the world. Bernie wants to “fix” this.


18 posted on 03/18/2020 8:32:57 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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To: fireman15
Except that it [spreading] wasn't actually happening before our entire system was shut down and is not actually happening.

Of course it was happening. It's still happening now. If it wasn't, there wouldn't be any more new cases springing up. This virus is incredibly contagious. And, as you pointed out, some of them are asymptomatic, which means we may never be able to identify these individuals.

What makes this virus so dangerous is that there is no treatment and no vaccine. With the regular flu, there are antiviral treatments and a vaccine. If you decide not to seek either, than being sick is on you. With this virus, you don't have those options.

19 posted on 03/18/2020 8:46:17 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: Spruce

Went to Kaiser yesterday for short stop the place was empty


20 posted on 03/18/2020 8:51:26 AM PDT by Rj Snows (Some years back Sacramento area used to be the capital of tomatoes)
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