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Diamond Princess Mysteries
Watts Up With That ^ | March 16, 2020 | Willis Eschenbach

Posted on 03/17/2020 7:00:52 AM PDT by fireman15

OK, here are my questions. We had a perfect petri-dish coronavirus disease (COVID-19) experiment with the cruise ship “Diamond Princess”. That’s the cruise ship that ended up in quarantine for a number of weeks after a number of people tested positive for the coronavirus. I got to wondering what the outcome of the experiment was.

So I dug around and found an analysis of the situation, with the catchy title of Estimating the infection and case fatality ratio for COVID-19 using age-adjusted data from the outbreak on the Diamond Princess cruise ship (PDF), so I could see what the outcomes were.

As you might imagine, before they knew it was a problem, the epidemic raged on the ship, with infected crew members cooking and cleaning for the guests, people all eating together, close living quarters, lots of social interaction, and a generally older population. Seems like a perfect situation for an overwhelming majority of the passengers to become infected.

And despite that, some 83% (82.7% – 83.9%) of the passengers never got the disease at all … why

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: chinavirusinfo; coronavirus; covid19; cruiseship; diamondprincess; quarantine
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Hate to start another Coronavirus thread, but this article is interesting because an actual study based on the numbers relating to this quarantined cruise ship suggest that this virus behaives differently than what we are being led to believe.
1 posted on 03/17/2020 7:00:52 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Half of the 17% of passengers infected had no symptoms at all.


2 posted on 03/17/2020 7:02:06 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Good catch. Thanks.


3 posted on 03/17/2020 7:05:44 AM PDT by pt17
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To: fireman15; bitt; generally

Bookmark cruise ship


4 posted on 03/17/2020 7:07:37 AM PDT by ptsal ( Bust the NVIA)
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To: fireman15

Because it is not nearly as deadly and dangerous as all of the Panic mongers say it is. I believe months and years from now when all of the numbers finally come out and are crunched the WHO and alarmists will have egg on their face over this. There will be hearings with the CDC heads where they will be gulping glasses of water placed on green felt tables in Congress while dodging questions.


5 posted on 03/17/2020 7:13:21 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: fireman15

“PLEASE LOOK AT ITALY!”...they scream


6 posted on 03/17/2020 7:13:54 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: fireman15
Half of the 17% of passengers infected had no symptoms at all.

This has been on my mind a lot in the last few days.

The early spin was that you could spread the disease without having the disease.

Now it's becoming more apparent that many people have the disease, but it's so mild they hardly notice the symptoms.

Many times, I'll wake up with a slight sore throat or a slight case of the sniffles. Usually it's because the night before I went outside to do something (like put the trash bins out) without putting on a coat. During the course of the morning the symptoms disappear, and I don't think any more about it.

I'm wondering if a lot of people (like half, by my reading of this article) who get coronavirus show no more symptoms than that. They hardly notice it, and don't think anything of it.

7 posted on 03/17/2020 7:16:57 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: frogjerk

Thank God our administration is looking at Italy, listening to the doctors there, and trying to mitigate here while preparing for 3 weeks from now


8 posted on 03/17/2020 7:17:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (Remember kids: You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out!)
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To: frogjerk
No, all the politicians, experts and the mefia (media) will claim that they saved us from certain disaster by taking away our freedom and trashing the economy.
9 posted on 03/17/2020 7:18:08 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

The official numbers for the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship:

Confirmed: 696
Deaths: 7
Recovered: 325
Active: 364


10 posted on 03/17/2020 7:18:50 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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“And despite that, some 83% (82.7% – 83.9%) of the passengers never got the disease at all”

So millions are going to suffer huge financial loss and we may end up with a rat POTUS who will bring more misery than we cam imagine because of a disease with an infection rate of 17% under ideal conditions. MSM’s demise is greatly exaggerated.


11 posted on 03/17/2020 7:19:01 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: frogjerk

And it’s up to us to make our representatives feel the heat.


12 posted on 03/17/2020 7:19:31 AM PDT by abb
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To: Steely Tom

Anybody who thinks this is a hoax should go volunteer in a hospital for the next two weeks.


13 posted on 03/17/2020 7:20:52 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: fireman15

“the epidemic RAGED (emphasis my own) on the ship”

Seriously? Hyperbole much?


14 posted on 03/17/2020 7:22:31 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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To: frogjerk

There is a hospital in italy where 100% of patients with cover 19 on ventilators have died and they don’t know why. Things like that ARE scary.


15 posted on 03/17/2020 7:24:09 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Steely Tom
\ I'm wondering if a lot of people (like half, by my reading of this article) who get coronavirus show no more symptoms than that. They hardly notice it, and don't think anything of it.

As the testing around here (Eastern King County Washington, coronavirus central) really takes off, they are going to find that it was passed around for weeks before anyone realized something was up.

16 posted on 03/17/2020 7:24:16 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: frogjerk

“when all of the numbers finally come out and are crunched the WHO and alarmists will have egg on their face over this.”

Don’t count on it. The “numbers that finally come out” will be numbers they provide/invent — and isn’t that convenient? There’s NFW they’ll tell the truth if the truth reflects badly on them.


17 posted on 03/17/2020 7:24:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Covid 19 - danged spell check


18 posted on 03/17/2020 7:24:58 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: wastoute

My husband volunteers at a nearby hospital. He thinks it — the overreaction — is a hoax.


19 posted on 03/17/2020 7:26:47 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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To: fireman15
Interesting how the Diamond Princess and the Grand Princess, which are British registered, show up on the Coronavirus Dashboard in the U.S. column.

Possibly to inflate the CVD-19 numbers for the U.S.?

20 posted on 03/17/2020 7:26:49 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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