Posted on 03/10/2020 6:27:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
Italy recorded 168 deaths Tuesday from the coronavirus, its highest single-day toll to date, pushing the number of fatalities outside China to more than 1,000. Overall in Italy, 631 people have died from the disease and 10,149 have been infected in just over two weeks.
Italy's first day under a nationwide lockdown came after a decree signed late Monday by Premier Giuseppe Conte ordered the nationwide restrictions on movement. Panic buying erupted, prompting the government to assure citizens that supermarkets will remain open and stocked.
Conte's office said runs on supermarkets went counter to the intent of the new decree, which aims to prevent Italians from congregating. Soldiers and police enforced the travel ban and Carabinieri teams patrolled cafes to make sure owners were keeping customers a metre apart.
"Our civic duty is the only thing that can save us," said Marzio Tonilo, 35, a teacher from the northern town of San Fiorano, which was placed under quarantine last month.
‘It looks like an apocalypse’
Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte’s move to expand the so-called red zone to encompass the entire country on Monday night shocked many small businesses, which fear for their future.
"It looks like an apocalypse has struck, there is no one around," said Mario Monfreda, who runs Larys restaurant in a smart Rome residential area. Under the government order, all bars and restaurants will now have to close at 6pm.
"It is a total disaster. This will reduce us to nothing ... More people are going to die as a result of the economic crisis that this lockdown is going to cause than the virus itself."
However, the prosperous northern region of Lombardy, centred on Italy's financial capital Milan, called on the government to introduce even more stringent measures.
"I would shut down all the shops.
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Jason Van Schoor
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From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity
4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.
7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern: 8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great
9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.
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The panic is a much bigger problem than the disease. Trump is steady. He won't panic.
An article published in Nature Medicine in 2015 with a co-author from Wuhan institute. If you read the abstract it says they have assembled a virus in the lab that can transmit from bats to humans.
Not only that, but labs in China have already had a half dozen viruses leak out already - that we know about!
A girl I hired 15 years ago has a husband doing business in Italy, just returned from his last trip 2 weeks ago. I just learned this today. Yikes!
The Mediterranean climate and diet has also provided Italy with a higher and average share of elder adults, and they kiss as a form of greeting.
This is what happens during an epidemic in countries with socialized medicine.
That study/virus development was done in the USA, but did the Wuhan doc take a sample back with him?
https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787
He better start because the testing fiasco is about to bury him.
Not only that, but labs in China have already had a half dozen viruses leak out already - that we know about!
BS. Real facts here not the lying with anecdotal evidence from supposed “friends” who just happen to be an “expert” working in the hot zone
Italy has 192,548 hospital beds at last count.
Total number of world wide cases are 119,000. Recovered or mild 108,000 Deaths 4295. Average age of death”: 80 years old
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
We need to come down hard of these commie bastards when this dies down. 14000 dead from swine flu under Obama Biden in the US
Italy has the oldest population (and lowest domestic birth rate) in Europe, so it’s no wonder it has a high death rate. The average age of the dead in Italy is 82. It’s 80 worldwide, so even though the disease kills mostly the elderly, Italy has more elderly elderly, so to speak.
Does it kill others? Yes, but I’d bet you’d find out that the majority of these latest deaths were elderly. That’s not good, but it means that relatively few people who get it and are not over 60-70 are going to die from it.
“The Mediterranean climate and diet has also provided Italy with a higher and average share of elder adults, and they kiss as a form of greeting.”
I have also read that this outbreak originated in Milan, the home of many of the world’s leading fashion designers. They hire huge numbers of Chinese tailors/seamstresses to make their garments...and many of them return home every year to celebrate Chinese New Year. And the outbreak started in Italy just after they all returned. What a coincidence!!
Bon mots wrote:
“Well look at this:
An article published in Nature Medicine in 2015 with a co-author from Wuhan institute. If you read the abstract it says they have assembled a virus in the lab that can transmit from bats to humans.
“
Look in the bold part, where it says
“Evaluation of sars-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein.
To show there was a threat to humans, they had mixed mouse virus with bat virus, and to the mouse virus, added a spike to it.
And that antibodies & vaccines didn’t protect the mouse.
Question:
Where did they do this experiment?
Canada?
Wuhan, China?
Article link. In terms of experimental design and both creating and testing the virus, "they" would be mostly UNC Chapel Hill and the National Center for Toxicological Research, Food and Drug Administration:
Acknowledgements
Research in this manuscript was supported by grants from the National Institute of Allergy & Infectious Disease and the National Institute of Aging of the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) under awards U19AI109761 (R.S.B.), U19AI107810 (R.S.B.), AI085524 (W.A.M.), F32AI102561 (V.D.M.) and K99AG049092 (V.D.M.), and by the National Natural Science Foundation of China awards 81290341 (Z.-L.S.) and 31470260 (X.-Y.G.), and by USAID-EPT-PREDICT funding from EcoHealth Alliance (Z.-L.S.). Human airway epithelial cultures were supported by the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Disease of the NIH under award NIH DK065988 (S.H.R.). We also thank M.T. Ferris (Dept. of Genetics, University of North Carolina) for the reviewing of statistical approaches and C.T. Tseng (Dept. of Microbiology and Immunology, University of Texas Medical Branch) for providing Calu-3 cells. Experiments with the full-length and chimeric SHC014 recombinant viruses were initiated and performed before the GOF research funding pause and have since been reviewed and approved for continued study by the NIH. The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the NIH.
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Contributions
V.D.M. designed, coordinated and performed experiments, completed analysis and wrote the manuscript. B.L.Y. designed the infectious clone and recovered chimeric viruses; S.A. completed neutralization assays; L.E.G. helped perform mouse experiments; T.S. and J.A.P. completed mouse experiments and plaque assays; X.-Y.G. performed pseudotyping experiments; K.D. generated structural figures and predictions; E.F.D. generated phylogenetic analysis; R.L.G. completed RNA analysis; S.H.R. provided primary HAE cultures; A.L. and W.A.M. provided critical monoclonal antibody reagents; and Z.-L.S. provided SHC014 spike sequences and plasmids. R.S.B. designed experiments and wrote manuscript.
Nice find...
[Italy has 192,548 hospital beds at last count.]
“It’s a reasoning that our colleagues make,” Dr. Guido Giustetto, head of the association of doctors in northern Piedmont, said Monday. “It becomes dramatic if, rather than doing it under normal situations, they do it because the beds are so scarce that someone might not have access to medical care.”
The Italian society of anesthesiology and intensive care published 15 ethical recommendations to consider when deciding on ICU admissions during the virus crisis and the ICU shortage. The criteria include the age of the patient and the probability of survival, and not just “first come first served.”
The Lombardy government has been scrambling to increase its ICU capacity, converting operating and recovery rooms into isolated wards to treat the 440 critical virus patients currently in need. It has cobbled together 150 more beds in the last two weeks and expects another 150 in the coming week.
But it may not be enough.]
“Where did they do this experiment?”
Department of Epidemiology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
There appears to have been two researchers from Wuxan participating.
Here’s the entire article:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985
“Not only that, but labs in China have already had a half dozen viruses leak out already - that we know about”!
I suppose that means we’re likely to see more and more deadly viruses leak out. I hope I’m wrong.
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