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The Influenza Pandemic of 1918 [Same Mortality Rate as COVID-19]
Stanford University ^ | February 1, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 02/26/2020 9:16:48 AM PST by C19fan

The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to 1351. Known as "Spanish Flu" or "La Grippe" the influenza of 1918-1919 was a global disaster.

(Excerpt) Read more at virus.stanford.edu ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; coronavirus; covid19; virus
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To: null and void

This Corona thread posting thing is ruining FreeRepublic. I wish you guys would consolidate this crap into just one daily thread. Annoying as F#$%.


101 posted on 02/26/2020 11:48:18 AM PST by Professional
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To: Professional

Please feel free to treat my pings as a warning label to avoid those threads.

You’ll be happier, maybe even blissful if the aphorism is correct.


102 posted on 02/26/2020 11:55:17 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Robert DeLong
Is this delusional looking woman his sister? Pretty sure I asked at the time and she had some job in health or in the administration (Obamas?)


103 posted on 02/26/2020 12:04:21 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: null and void

You and the others that are putting up nothing but Corona threads are apparently out of touch with the idea that this is a “conservative news forum”, not a health forum.

All of the Q threads are consolidated into ONE thread as not to dominate the website. Similarly, this stupid flu crap needs to be consolidated as to not overshadow the purpose of this website.


104 posted on 02/26/2020 12:04:23 PM PST by Professional
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POTUS giving COVID-19 address at 6 pm (ET) tonight.


105 posted on 02/26/2020 12:05:23 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Professional
Oh, and for the record I only ping once to each Coronavirus Live Thread

Why don't you track down and hammer anyone who dares post a new thread and force or intimidate them into only posting on that day's main thread?

I think that would be a lovely use of your time...

106 posted on 02/26/2020 12:06:13 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: myerson

Antibiotics don’t kill viruses.


107 posted on 02/26/2020 12:07:23 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: polymuser

For goodness sake don’t post a thread about it! The professional self-appointed thread gods will be angered!!!!


108 posted on 02/26/2020 12:10:21 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

I’m not trying to intimidate anyone, I’m just stating how incredibly irritating the constant stream of articles have become. If you can’t understand that, you’re either stupid or retarded.


109 posted on 02/26/2020 12:11:56 PM PST by Professional
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To: null and void

I know, right!

I must assume they also police all the word games, vanities, old magazine articles, stupid poll results, old war stories, puzzles, feel-good animal stories, etc. in News/Activism, too.


110 posted on 02/26/2020 12:23:58 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Professional

I’ll go with retarded.

I’ve been saying for decades that “In your mother’s eyes, you will always be three years old and somewhat retarded...”


111 posted on 02/26/2020 12:26:06 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: MrEdd

Don’t know at this stage how you could possibly know that the ease of transmission “ isn’t even close”. It’s way too early to tell but I hope you’re right.


112 posted on 02/26/2020 12:58:59 PM PST by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: C19fan

Spanish flu death rates were high because it killed so many who carried tuberculosis.


113 posted on 02/26/2020 1:02:02 PM PST by tbw2
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To: null and void
Ahh yes. 8.4% = 2770 deaths / (2770 plus 30,311 recovered) as of today.

Removing all Mainland China data, I get 16.98%; 55 deaths / (55 plus 269 recoveries).

Now, in part, this high Case Fatality Rate probably reflects the absence of the work-in-progress of 2,857 non-Mainland China unresolved but alive people. They may not all die at a 17% rate - there will likely be improvements in treatment, heroic measures, learning and sharing of medical approaches globally that lowers the final CFR. In addition, the early deaths may have been the sickest people with which to begin. There is a LOT to factor in, but I'd rather do the math and sort it out later. Thanks.

114 posted on 02/26/2020 1:10:07 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob
Removing all Mainland China data, I get 16.98%; 55 deaths / (55 plus 269 recoveries).

That data set is a little thin:

Back on 1/31/20, there were 259 deaths, 284 recoveries, and that gives 47.7% fatalities.

When more cases came on board, the rate steadily improved.

Don't know why, but that's what the data says.

Cause for concern, but not yet panic. We'll see where it levels off presently.

Then we can re-evaluate whether to panic or not...

115 posted on 02/26/2020 1:26:54 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Blue Highway

She has been at CDC since 1995 (Clinton Administration). I do not believe she had any position within the Obama Administration or any administration. Just an employee of CDC.. However, that certainly does look like it could be a picture of her. But I couldn’t swear that is her. 8>)


116 posted on 02/26/2020 1:36:18 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: null and void
The early deaths may have been the sickest people with which to begin. Thus, coronavirus may initially kill the old and infirm, and that will cause a high initial CFR. Over time, the virus afflicts more, generally healthy people but they recover because, well, they were healthy already. The CFR then comes down.

This pattern is similar to what we saw with SARS:

The pattern in Canada is interesting and is due to afflicted individuals coming to Toronto where they had lax controls. In particular, a hospital worker came back from China who BOARDED at the hospital and spread SARS throughout the populous.

I agree, that a sober monitoring of data and performing calculations and watching what govts do vs say while buying staples etc is prudent. This is not a time for braggadocio or hysteria.

117 posted on 02/26/2020 1:56:28 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: JeanLM

I can state that because this one doesn’t infect migratory birds which don’t die from it but do fly around the world infecting humans wherever they go.

Hell even if it did, the bird population is a fraction of what it was in 1918.

In 1918 you could not have functional national quarantines because of all the passenger pidgeons. That is why Passenger Pigeons are extinct today - they were intentionally eradicated in the twenties.

They used to teach this in school, and when I was growing up I was interested in the topic and read a lot of books about the times. And of course the men who fought in the Great War were only in their sixties then and I loved to hang out with my grandfather at the barber shop or the grain elevators and tractor stores and listen to those guys reminisce.


118 posted on 02/26/2020 2:44:10 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Robert DeLong

I did see “Parasite” and it is not flu related.


119 posted on 02/26/2020 6:36:22 PM PST by Mears
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To: Professional; null and void
I’m not trying to intimidate anyone, I’m just stating how incredibly irritating the constant stream of articles have become. If you can’t understand that, you’re either stupid or retarded.

Then ignore them.

120 posted on 02/26/2020 7:44:03 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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