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Coronavirus Live Weekend Thread.
2/22/20

Posted on 02/22/2020 7:03:34 AM PST by Vermont Lt

A forever thread is getting long. Perhaps a weekly thread?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: billionsinfected; chinavirus; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; globaldoom; livethread; millionsdead; wuflu; wuhanflu; wuhansars
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To: janetjanet998

CDC just raised travel risks to Japan and SK


Alert Level 2, Practice Enhanced Precautions
Updated Coronavirus in Japan
February 22, 2020
Japan is experiencing sustained community transmission of respiratory illness (COVID-19) caused by the novel coronavirus. The virus can spread from person to person. Older adults and those with chronic medical conditions should consider postponing nonessential travel.
Read More >>
New Coronavirus in South Korea
February 22, 2020
South Korea is experiencing sustained community transmission of respiratory illness (COVID-19) caused by the novel coronavirus. The virus can spread from person to person. Older adults and those with chronic medical conditions should consider postponing nonessential travel.
Read More >>
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices


161 posted on 02/22/2020 11:41:46 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

There goes the Olympics.


162 posted on 02/22/2020 11:42:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: janetjanet998
Isn't the Piedmont kinda like near France or something?
163 posted on 02/22/2020 11:42:46 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: janetjanet998

It’s like going home for Christmas/New Years. The Vietnam version is “Tet.”

So it is likely that a lot of folks go to other places in the country to visit their homestead. It is not dissimilar than people leaving NYC and LA to travel home.

I am sure some folks go to NYC, but not as many as those leaving. In any event—they are stuck where they are.


164 posted on 02/22/2020 11:42:50 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: dfwgator

I am not sure, yet. The US is weeks away from China on the timeline. And it seems there are a lot of folks “buying the dip”. And that has worked in the past. Until it doesn’t.


165 posted on 02/22/2020 11:44:19 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: justa-hairyape

Viruses have a way of getting to people. They are sneakier than bullets. Ha ha.


166 posted on 02/22/2020 11:45:02 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: riri
If it turns out that

a) this *was* a bioweapon
b) It was created or released in China (even if stolen from Canada, or North Carolina, or engineered by Harvard)

...then maybe it would be time for President Trump to do some for-real collusion with Russia, by NUKING Peking (oops, "Beijing") for releasing this biowweapon into the world.

Full disclosure: if it was a bioweapon, and the Harvard Chem. Dept. Head or any of his Chicom stooges had anything to do with it, nuke Harvard too.

167 posted on 02/22/2020 11:46:39 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

I think he can call the CDC to a White House meeting (probably in the next week.). Invite Nancy and Chuck.

It’s all for show. But it would appear he is concerned. Nancy and Chuck would talk “politics.” Trump can say, “When they ask for an emergency action we will be here. They (the CDC) are the experts.”

When it blows up, he will fire them and put some high profile doc in charge.

In the end it won’t matter.


168 posted on 02/22/2020 11:48:15 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SE Mom
I don't even think China could speculate numbers. There is just no way to know. People have probably died in those massive apartment blocs and haven't even been counted.

Maybe, hopefully, people have been sick and recovered in those apartment blocs and not been counted.

All we can do is presume they know something enough to warrant the response they've had. IMO, a 3% mortality rate would not do this.

169 posted on 02/22/2020 11:48:25 AM PST by riri
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To: ScottfromNJ

If it spreads to Mexico, there will be more reason to finish the wall unless the RATS want a pandemic in the US.


170 posted on 02/22/2020 11:52:09 AM PST by 353FMG ( In Trump we trust.)
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To: Black Agnes

found this, probably off one of these threads, (h/t to whomever posted this link) and I think this is what you were talking about some time back maybe?

If I’m understanding this paper right, if one gets a viral infection, and builds antibodies, and then gets a variation of that virus down the road, it may cause a more intense infection with that second variant.

maybe this is why a Wuhan person gets discharged as fine, but meanwhile the virus has mutated to a second or fifth generation or added some little bit of whatever along the way, and boom - now they’re in trouble:

” ... Khurana et al. characterized the antibodies associated with ADE in pigs vaccinated with whole inactivated H1N2 (human-like) vaccine and challenged with heterologous H1N1 virus (Khurana et al., 2013).
Sera from immunized pigs showed high titers of cross-reactive anti-H1N1 HA antibodies that were directed to the HA2 region but not the HA1 head, and these antibodies were associated with enhanced illness
....pre-fusion stem-directed antibodies are not likely to cause ADE. In fact, HA pre-fusion stem-only vaccine is considered a promising influenza vaccine that can induce broad protection. “

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6290032/


171 posted on 02/22/2020 11:57:35 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Destroyer Sailor

Some unsavory countries may intentionally try to spread the virus.


172 posted on 02/22/2020 11:57:55 AM PST by 353FMG ( In Trump we trust.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I think the Diamond Princess was targeted just so nuking China was off the table. Lol.


173 posted on 02/22/2020 12:00:57 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not a ppear that way.)
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To: dfwgator

There goes the Olympics.


Yep...exactly what I was thinking.


174 posted on 02/22/2020 12:02:34 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Vermont Lt

I’m staying here where the really smart people are. Thanks for the threads, VT. No better info anywhere.


175 posted on 02/22/2020 12:03:26 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: riri

There’s probably a lot they don’t know as you say, but I think the crematoriums have a better idea of true mortality rate. Compare flu and other COD from a year ago with their current numbers...

One thing stands out- nothing but a grave situation would cause China to take the measures they have. No country did this for SARS, Ebola MERS, or the worst flus.


176 posted on 02/22/2020 12:03:46 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: riri

Any updates on these locked up apartment buildings? How are they getting food and med supplies?


177 posted on 02/22/2020 12:03:48 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Jane Long
I have wondered the same. I think I read weeks ago, food was being left outside the doors and they were allowed to open and retrieve. I can't say if that is valid or not.

But, if true, you have to wonder how long they will have the resources to continue that.

178 posted on 02/22/2020 12:07:38 PM PST by riri
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To: SE Mom

You had to wonder all along what the naysayers were thinking. That China was over reacting ? In a more reality based scenario, perhaps the Chinese were supposed to be acting this way after the mysterious viral leaks in Japan, Taiwan, Australia and Indonesia were resolved. No doubt. Lol.


179 posted on 02/22/2020 12:08:19 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not a ppear that way.)
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To: Jane Long

Us too.

Just had our septic redone a cpl years ago too.

We’re on muni water (country water) but it’s a well.


180 posted on 02/22/2020 12:08:23 PM PST by Black Agnes
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