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China will admit coronavirus coming from its P4 lab
GNews ^ | 020-01-25 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 01/30/2020 8:38:34 AM PST by Republic_Venom

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

As of this morning’s report on the Johns Hopkins University web site at 11:00am EST, there are 111 cases of Coronavirus outside of China.

Not one of them has died.


81 posted on 01/30/2020 9:57:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne (It's a New Year, and time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll <hardly miss it and it will help.)
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To: DoughtyOne

That number also skyrocketed from but a small handful over the last 3 or 4 days.

Give it time.


82 posted on 01/30/2020 10:02:51 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Seruzawa

Nope.


83 posted on 01/30/2020 10:38:06 AM PST by MarMema (Proud co-pilot for John James)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

In the last three days, the number of identified cases outside of China has increased from 65 to 111.

I think we were talking about our not being able to quantify the number of deaths in China, or the percentages of the mortality rate there. That’s true.

What we can do is document those who have been identified with the disease outside of China.

We can then reference what we know about them.

So far of the 111 known cases outside of China, the mortality rate is 0.00%. No one has died of Coronavirus outside of China.

That could change, in fact I’d be surprised if it doesn’t. Still, all we have to address is what we know. And so far that 111 cases outside of China is all we can say we know for sure.


84 posted on 01/30/2020 10:45:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (It's a New Year, and time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll <hardly miss it and it will help.)
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To: Republic_Venom

Captain Trips. :O


85 posted on 01/30/2020 10:46:52 AM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: RummyChick
Someone will be the fall guy.

I agree. There will be scapegoats. Maybe the Mayor of Wuhan, or the Governor of Hubei Province. Hope Emperor Eleven (XI Jinping) is one, but probably not.

86 posted on 01/30/2020 10:56:07 AM PST by CDB
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To: Red Badger
Here's some good gnus...............…

I don't know.... thet Gnu in the back looks a little shady! I think I saw him on a "Gnu Wanted" poster.

87 posted on 01/30/2020 10:58:36 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Magnum44

OMG... that is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while.


88 posted on 01/30/2020 10:59:33 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: DoughtyOne

The biological weapon would not be effected at 90%. You want a range where the other army is spending there manpower and resources caring for the sick.

At 90% they would just leave the wounded to die and keep fighting.


89 posted on 01/30/2020 11:07:08 AM PST by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom

If 90% of the enemies forces are debilitated there’s not going to be much battle.


90 posted on 01/30/2020 11:08:49 AM PST by DoughtyOne (It's a New Year, and time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll <hardly miss it and it will help.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The cases outside of China would be people healthy enough to travel at least so there is that bit of preselection of the sample. I suppose once transmission starts to take place outside of China things might change from that sample.


91 posted on 01/30/2020 11:23:37 AM PST by xp38
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To: xp38

That is a factor in the mortality rate, to be sure.

Our health care system is likely more advanced. Therapies are more prolific. Medications are likely more diverse.

People who travel are more likely to have pretty good access to top level treatment.


92 posted on 01/30/2020 11:37:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (It's a New Year, and time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll <hardly miss it and it will help.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think what happened is this: The outbreak was recognized in early December. The investigation, and the announcement, were delayed because the Party and the government were not prepared to respond.

I met someone who was in Wuhan December 25-26, and this person told me the large number of ill people and the connection with the Seafood-Wild Animal Market was well known to all.

Transmission was amplified all during December and early January, the somewhat primitive system got overwhelmed, treatments became increasingly unavailable, people started to run as they always do in epidemics, and now 31/33 provinces are infected.

There must be, as there always is, a Party Hospital in Wuhan. Bet the death rate is lower there.

I’ve looked at the genome map, it’s perfectly plausible that this is a naturally evolved virus (that doesn’t prove it, but believing it has a natural origin is certainly plausible).

As you suggest, death rates in the West will be lower, maybe zero, but lower for sure.

Containment is possible here, but everybody has to be on their toes and politicians have to stay out of it - that is also possible, but I don’t know if that’s how to bet.

And, for anybody who has read this far, a non-fitted N95 mask is more dangerous that a surgical mask.


93 posted on 01/30/2020 11:55:22 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks for the informative comments.

Your thoughts sound pretty reasoned to me.


94 posted on 01/30/2020 12:03:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (It's a New Year, and time to up our FR Monthlies by 5-10%. You'll <hardly miss it and it will help.)
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To: Jim Noble
And, for anybody who has read this far, a non-fitted N95 mask is more dangerous that a surgical mask.

Why is that?

95 posted on 01/30/2020 12:07:51 PM PST by GOPJ ( Coronavirus - - global cases: http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap)
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To: GOPJ

Because the N95 mask is less permeable to air, and breathing creates suction through the gaps (the area where the mask isn’t sealed on the face).

Very few pathogens actually require N95-level filtration, they are hard to fit, are uncomfortable, and they are expensive.


96 posted on 01/30/2020 12:14:36 PM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: GOPJ

Coronaviruses can infect people through conjucnctivae, and people who were an unfitted N95 mask and who neglect eye protection may be doubly at risk.


97 posted on 01/30/2020 12:18:30 PM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: NFHale; GOPsterinMA; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; DarthVader; LS

Oh my goodness....


98 posted on 01/30/2020 3:19:51 PM PST by KC_Lion
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To: KC_Lion; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; DarthVader; LS; BillyBoy

Assuming it was (Which I wouldn’t), I don’t buy that they would EVER admit it in a million years. Why would they? Truth is poison to a communist regime.


99 posted on 01/30/2020 4:46:27 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

It was effecting the stock markets.


100 posted on 01/30/2020 5:21:55 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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