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1 posted on 01/27/2020 6:34:01 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

Dark Energy Ping!.......................


2 posted on 01/27/2020 6:35:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: Red Badger

I thought gravity was a distortion in space-time


6 posted on 01/27/2020 6:44:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Red Badger

I was pondering something along these lines a few weeks ago.

If gravity has waves then would gravitational waves ripple back to the center once it reached the edge of the expansion? - similar to when a rock is thrown in a pond and it the wave reaches the edge of the pond and bounces back toward where the rock entered.

If it did would the resulting interference/cancellation result in an approximation of the delta between the current expansion rate and the anticipated rate?


7 posted on 01/27/2020 6:45:08 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: Red Badger

Not settled science yet.


10 posted on 01/27/2020 6:46:24 AM PST by AU72
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To: Red Badger

Gravity is by far the weakest fundamental force.

Dark mater/dark energy as an explanation for how the dust and atoms in the universe managed to clump together and form the stars and galaxies ignores the contributions of the far more powerful electromagnetic forces.


20 posted on 01/27/2020 6:55:54 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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To: Red Badger
the hypothetical particles (gravitons) that mediate the gravitational force themselves have a mass. In Einstein’s version, gravitons are assumed to be massless.

Gravitons carry discrete amount of energy and energy has mass.

22 posted on 01/27/2020 6:58:10 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Red Badger; Uversabound; SaveFerris; PROCON; FredZarguna; mylife; Lil Flower; Corky Ramirez; ...
Just give up sex and you can do anything. Even learn Portuguese!


24 posted on 01/27/2020 7:00:12 AM PST by Gamecock (Ironically, the insistence that doctrines do not matter is really a doctrine itself. (TK))
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To: Red Badger

Gravitons themselves have mass? No, I don’t think so.


26 posted on 01/27/2020 7:00:35 AM PST by Crucial
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To: Red Badger

Change could be afoot. De Rham has pioneered a radical theory that could hold the key to why the universe is expanding faster and faster and explain the nature of dark energy.

...

If your theory isn’t doing well with other scientists, go to mass media.


30 posted on 01/27/2020 7:04:23 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: Red Badger

“Dark Energy”, “Dark Matter”....,,,,whenever you hear the word “dark” in a scientific context, you should immediately be suspicious. Those are just placeholders put n to explain why observations do not match our latest theory. Maybe.....just maybe.....the theory has some things wrong. Einstein obviously got a lot right. It was an advance over Newton who was an advance over superstition and dogma, but....maybe General Relativity is not a complete explanation.


31 posted on 01/27/2020 7:04:32 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Red Badger
Prof Claudia de Rahm:


38 posted on 01/27/2020 7:19:48 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias | "Islam": Allah's useful idiots | Brennan & 0b0z0: Islam's useful idiots)
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To: Red Badger

Okay, I am no theoretical physicist, but maybe someone here is. and can explain this in a manner simple enough for those of us who are not in their field.

They tell us that 97 or 98% of the “visible” universe, is moving away from us, due to universal expansion (space itself is expanding) faster than the speed of light...

This means if we were to build a space ship that could reach the speed of light, (the theoretical maximum anything can move through space, including light itself) and launch it in the direction of 97% of the galaxies we can see, it could never ever reach them... EVER... in fact, with each passing moment, even though the space craft is moving at the speed of light, the galaxy it is heading toward would be further away from it, than it was the moment before...

So, the question is, if 97% of the “visible” universe is moving away from us, thanks to expansion, at a speed faster than light... how is that we even see them in the first place? Light leaving those galaxies, heading toward us, would be having the same issues as our hypothetical space craft.... it will never reach us.

So is it simply we are seeing light that left them before they were moving away from us faster than the speed of light? and that is the only reason we can see them? And if that’s true, then there likely would he a lot more galaxies that moved over the barrier to beyond light speed expansion from us whose last light reached us, that could, long before humans evolved?

Anyway, lots of questions.. but one more... Will we ever see a new galaxy ever with these realities? IE one born who’s light hasn’t reached us yet, but isn’t expanding away from us faster than the speed of light ?

Anyway, these are the sorts of questions Insomnia sometimes brings...


41 posted on 01/27/2020 7:24:22 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Badger

Another possibility is that space-time itself is expanding. It allegedly happened in the first second of the “big bang”, why can’t it still be happening?


42 posted on 01/27/2020 7:29:28 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Red Badger

I would much rather they answer this...

The estimated age of the universe is just shy of 14 Billion years. The estimated radius of the known universe is approximately 45 Billion light years. If the speed of light is the maximum speed, how could the known universe be 3x bigger that physics allows?

No, I did not just make these numbers up...


44 posted on 01/27/2020 7:31:06 AM PST by Bitman
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45 posted on 01/27/2020 7:31:58 AM PST by samtheman (I hope someone close to Trump is reading FR every day.)
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To: Red Badger; 1FreeAmerican; A. Patriot; AndrewC; antonia; aristotleman; Bellflower; Boogieman; ...
This physicist and Gravity Driven Universe Cosmologists are looking for answers and are in a tizzy because they refuse to look at an alternative model which posits another modality for what drives the Universe other than gravity which answers all these problems they cannot solve and even predicts many, if not all, of the puzzles they keep encountering as the delve deeper and farther into space.

The Electricmagnetic Driven Universe Driven Universe states that Electromagnetism, a force 39 orders of power stronger than gravity which is also infinite in reach, fulfills the requirements for answering these puzzles. This theory answers precisely many of the scalable phenomena observed in space and the laboratory that are not explicable by using gravity which cannot explain what is observed, even with using such magical creations as dark matter and dark energy have not and cannot be found after decades of searching for them.—Electric/Plasma Universe PING!


Clear Example of a Birkeland Current
"Z" Pinch with Symmetrical Plasmids
seen in Hubble Telescope View of
The Twin Jet Nebula
ELECTRIC/PLASMA UNIVERSE PING!

If you want on or off the Electric Universe/Plasma Ping List, Freepmail me.

54 posted on 01/27/2020 8:08:32 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: Red Badger

another hotfix patch to an already-falsified theory ain’t going to cut it


57 posted on 01/27/2020 8:11:03 AM PST by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: Red Badger

Dark Energy: The Universal Fudge-Factor


67 posted on 01/27/2020 9:41:38 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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