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Posted on 01/24/2020 2:28:22 PM PST by janetjanet998

Thought it may be a good idea to have a place to follow all the fast moving events in one place

updates coming in fast


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To: justa-hairyape

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/default.html


881 posted on 01/25/2020 4:47:58 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Jane Long

He taught at the Harvard School for Public Health for 15 years if that counts for anything.


882 posted on 01/25/2020 4:50:35 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ifinnegan
I’m not sure what’s with this trend of publishing non-reviewed articles.

It happens in physics because the formal on-paper review business takes too long.

In this case, it's because the MDs, epidemiologists, and Public Health officials are *alarmed*.

883 posted on 01/25/2020 4:52:36 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: RummyChick

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/chemical-warfare-trucks-spotted-rushing-21346037?fbclid=IwAR06CCRCn1VefURMl59xCo41VNqjbUjXsT7znUdzyqL6cA8CtXYdVxxXmFI


884 posted on 01/25/2020 4:56:27 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Yep. I included that in my post :-)


885 posted on 01/25/2020 4:56:31 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: janetjanet998
So confirmed new cases is about 1700?

Please give both numbers.

886 posted on 01/25/2020 4:57:33 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: janetjanet998
That's a 3% fatality rate.

Aye, que f*cked.

887 posted on 01/25/2020 4:59:01 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: gundog

Yes, and I used to be pretty good about not getting everything that was going around as a kid but now that I am older and a grandmother, I find I get what the grandkids get. I started taking some supplements which seem to be helping.


888 posted on 01/25/2020 5:21:20 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: steve86

Nice. Thanks.


889 posted on 01/25/2020 5:30:15 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: PA Engineer

BookMarking


890 posted on 01/25/2020 6:34:13 PM PST by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: SE Mom

If the chicoms are building 8,300 hospital beds in Wuhan alone that pretty much tells you what to expect....


891 posted on 01/25/2020 6:36:01 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: hsmomx3

I haven’t had anything in years. Like, 15 years. Used to take Zicam at the first sign. Whiskey works, too. If avoiding the grandkids like the plague isn’t an option, do whatever works for you.


892 posted on 01/25/2020 6:43:06 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: gundog
Is this it: the origin? Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program

Virology institute there has China's only secure lab for studying deadly viruse By Bill Gertz - The Washington Times Friday, January 24, 2020

The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

Radio Free Asia this week rebroadcast a local Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory known the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Radio Free Asia reported.

The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.

Dany Shoham, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who has studied Chinese bio warfare, said the institute is linked to Beijing’s covert biological weapons program.

“Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese [biological weapons], at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment,” Mr. Shoham told The Washington Times.

Work on biological weapons is conducted as part of a dual civilian-military research and is “definitely covert,” he said in an email.

Mr. Shoham holds a doctorate in medical microbiology. From 1970 to 1991 he was a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide, holding the rank of lieutenant colonel.

China in the past has denied having any offensive biological weapons. The State Department, in a report last year, said it suspects China has engaged in covert biological warfare work.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman did not return an email seeking comment.

Chinese authorities so far have said the origin of the coronavirus that has killed scores and infected hundreds in in central Hubei Province is not known.

Gao Fu, director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told state-controlled media initial signs as of Thursday indicated the virus originated from wild animals sold at a seafood market in Wuhan.

One ominous sign, said a U.S. official, is the that false rumors since the outbreak began several weeks ago have begun circulating on the Chinese Internet claiming the virus is part of a U.S. conspiracy to spread germ weapons.

That could indicate China is preparing propaganda outlets to counter future charges the new virus escaped from one of Wuhan’s civilian or defense research laboratories.

The World Health Organization is calling the microbe novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV. At a meeting in Geneva Thursday, the organization stopped short of declaring a Public Health Emergency of International Concern.

The virus outbreak causes pneumonia-like symptoms and prompted China to deploy military forces to Wuhan this week in a bid to halt the spread. All travel out of the city of 11 million people was halted.

The Wuhan institute has studied coronaviruses in the past, including the including the strain that causes Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS, H5N1 influenza virus, Japanese encephalitis, and dengue. Researchers at the institute also studied the germ that causes anthrax – a biological agent once developed in Russia.

“Coronaviruses (particularly SARS) have been studied in the institute and are probably held therein,” he said. “SARS is included within the Chinese BW program, at large, and is dealt with in several pertinent facilities.”

It is not known if the institute’s array of coronaviruses are specifically included in biological weapons program but it is possible, he said.

Asked if the new coronavirus may have leaked, Mr. Shoham said: “In principle, outward virus infiltration might take place either as leakage or as an indoor unnoticed infection of a person that normally went out of the concerned facility. This could have been the case with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but so far there isn’t evidence or indication for such incident.”

After researchers sequence of the genome of the new coronavirus it might be possible to determine or suggest its origin or source.

Mr. Shoham, now with the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University in Israel, said the virology institute is the only declared site in China known as P4 for Pathogen Level 4, a status indicating it uses the strictest safety standards to prevent the spread of the most dangerous and exotic microbes being studied.

The former Israeli military intelligence doctor also said suspicions were raised about the Wuhan Institute of Virology when a group of Chinese virologists working in Canada improperly sent samples to China of what he said were some of the deadliest viruses on earth, including the Ebola virus.

In a July article in the journal Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, Mr. Shoham said the Wuhan institute was one of four Chinese laboratories engaged in some aspects of the biological weapons development.

He identified the secure Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory at the institute as engaged in research on the Ebola, Nipah, and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever viruses.

The Wuhan virology institute is under the Chinese Academy of Sciences. But certain laboratories within it “have linkage with the PLA or BW-related elements within the Chinese defense establishment,” he said.

In 1993, China declared a second facility, the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products, as one of eight biological warfare research facilities covered by the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) which China joined in 1985.

The Wuhan Institute of Biological Products is a civilian facility but is linked to the Chinese defense establishment, and has been regarded to be involved in the Chinese BW program, Mr. Shoham said.

China’s vaccine against SARS is probably produced there.

“This means the SARS virus is held and propagated there, but it is not a new coronavirus, unless the wild type has been modified, which is not known and cannot be speculated at the moment,” he said.

The annual State Department report on arms treaty compliance stated last year that China engaged in activities that could support biological warfare.

“Information indicates that the People’s Republic of China engaged during the reporting period in biological activities with potential dual-use applications, which raises concerns regarding its compliance with the BWC,” the report said, adding that the United States suspects China failed to eliminate its biological warfare program as required by the treaty.

“The United States has compliance concerns with respect to Chinese military medical institutions’ toxin research and development because of the potential dual-use applications and their potential as a biological threat,” the report added.

The biosafety lab is located about 20 miles from the Hunan Seaford Market that reports from China say may have been origin point of the virus.

Rutgers University microbiologist Dr. Richard Ebright told London’s Daily Mail that “at this point there’s no reason to harbor suspicions” the lab may be linked to the virus outbreak.

893 posted on 01/25/2020 6:54:09 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911

Who the hell really knows? It’s behind the bamboo curtain. Photo could be of a couple of iPhone assemblers on a lunch break m


894 posted on 01/25/2020 6:57:54 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: rodguy911

Hey rodguy:)

I’ve followed this closely and am assuming China is lying. But, I’m not clear if they even know what they’re up against. But obviously with prepping for 8k beds they know it’s bad.

If it continues at the current rate it’s bad.


895 posted on 01/25/2020 6:58:06 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: gundog

Very true you are right. The only reason I ran with it is that its by Bill Gertz who is a rock star journalist,IMHO.


896 posted on 01/25/2020 7:00:09 PM PST by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911
Is this it: the origin?

Partner, the Chicoms have been getting too involved with Bio warfare.

The U.S. has given them too much technology free and some of it has been Stolen Technology by the Chicoms. It is simply too unbelievable!

897 posted on 01/25/2020 7:03:47 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: Jane Long

I am prepping, getting food from Amazon and purchasing food. I anticipating one month of food supples at least. I went to Home Depot and got the last of their N95 masks.
Even if nothing happens, I can still eat the food. I got scared when China cut off all communication on Weibo. That tells me something is up.
I did order from Amazon a stylus. You can wipe down your shopping cart handle, yet when you check out, you have to use a stylus to sign your name with a credit card. I was always compulsive about wiping down my cart handle, and never really thought about the stylus at the checkout counter.


898 posted on 01/25/2020 7:09:33 PM PST by kaila
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To: justa-hairyape

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/gilead-mulls-repositioning-failed-ebola-drug-china-virus


899 posted on 01/25/2020 7:12:21 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: TheConservativeTejano
I agree,what we don't give them they steal.

Here's some more on their bio program:

China is believed to have had an advanced chemical warfare program that included research and development, production and weaponization capabilities.

Its inventory was believed to include the full range of traditional chemical agents. It also has a wide variety of delivery systems for chemical agents to include artillery rockets, aerial bombs, sprayers, and short-range ballistic missiles. Chinese forces conducted defensive CW training and were prepared to operate in a contaminated environment.

As China's program was further integrated into overall military operations, its doctrine, which was believed to be based in part on Soviet-era thinking, may reflect the incorporation of more advanced munitions for CW agent delivery.

In the early 1990s, Chinese chemical exports were a source of serious concern. Evidently a large number of smaller Chinese companies became active in marketing chemicals to Iran and Syria. After attention was focused on certain chemical export transactions, China again moved step by step into conformity with international ex­pectations by signing the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) in 1993, and it subsequently ratified the CWC.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/china/cbw.htm

So according to this piece we not only have to worry what the chicoms have but what Iran and Syria have. Along with who knows whom else like Israel,Canada?

900 posted on 01/25/2020 7:16:30 PM PST by rodguy911
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