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Posted on 01/24/2020 2:28:22 PM PST by janetjanet998

Thought it may be a good idea to have a place to follow all the fast moving events in one place

updates coming in fast


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To: 11th_VA

hmm. ok. thanx


301 posted on 01/24/2020 5:41:53 PM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: abigkahuna

22 suspected cases in Zimbabwe.

https://www.herald.co.zw/22-under-monitoring-for-coronavirus/


302 posted on 01/24/2020 5:42:08 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: abigkahuna
Relatives Wonder Whether Pneumonia Deaths Were Tied to Coronavirus Families describe discrepancies between information from doctors and death certificates

HONG KONG—A 53-year-old fitness trainer died on Wednesday after checking into a hospital in Wuhan a little more than a week earlier, said his niece. His family had expected the death certificate to reflect the deadly coronavirus, because as his condition deteriorated, his doctors told his family he was suffering from an untreatable virus in his lungs. Instead, it recorded “severe pneumonia” as the cause of death, she said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/relatives-wonder-whether-pneumonia-deaths-were-tied-to-coronavirus-11579915630

303 posted on 01/24/2020 5:42:52 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: rdl6989

I was wondering when Africa was going to kick in ... China wants to relocate 300 million Chinese to Africa in the coming decade


304 posted on 01/24/2020 5:44:16 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: Artcore

Only if one reacts emotionally. I think this stuff is very interesting. I never go out anywhere, so I am not too worried.


305 posted on 01/24/2020 5:44:32 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: abigkahuna
I don't know what happened there...I went and formatted it, as well as the one up above...jeez...nothing worse than a wall of print...lets try this again... One more with some interesting information regarding symptoms. Source: http://www.kaixian.tv/gd/2020/0124/263113.html Fever cough is not the only first symptom of pneumonia due to a new coronavirus infection 2020-01-24 19:45:50 Source: Xinhua News Agency or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/china-2019-ncov/821830-china-2019-ncov-cases-in-several-provinces-and-cities-including-confirmed-health-care-workers-at-least-25-deaths/page39 研究 Expert research by Wuhan University People's Hospital found that after infection with new type of coronavirus pneumonia, patients do not necessarily show symptoms of fever and respiratory system first, and there are also symptoms of digestive system, nervous system, cardiovascular system, ophthalmology and so on. Wuhan University People's Hospital released on January 24th "The first symptoms of non-respiratory system are highly valued-identification and protection of patients with new type of coronavirus pneumonia (2019-nCOV)", reminding medical staff and the public to be highly vigilant about non-respiratory symptoms The first symptom of new pneumonia. The "Notice on the Issuance of a New Coronary Virus Pneumonia Diagnosis and Treatment Plan (Trial Implementation)" issued by the authoritative department recently pointed out that the clinical manifestations of new coronavirus pneumonia are mainly manifested by fever, fatigue, and dry cough. In the multidisciplinary department of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, Gastroenterology, People's Hospital of Wuhan University, many cases of "atypical" cases have been discovered during the diagnosis and treatment of new pneumonia. 于 Professor Yu Honggang, director of Department of Gastroenterology, People's Hospital of Wuhan University, introduced an "atypical" case. A 45-year-old man went to the outpatient department of gastroenterology for 3 days due to diarrhea. The doctor repeatedly asked the medical history to confirm that he had a history of exposure to the new coronavirus pneumonia, but no obvious fever and related respiratory symptoms. Thorough CT was performed after the consultation between the doctor and the patient. The results showed multiple sheet-like ground glass-like shadows in both lungs, and a new coronavirus nucleic acid test in the throat swab was positive, and the diagnosis was finally confirmed. Professor Chen Guozhong, one of the study moderators and director of the Department of Respiratory and Critical I, Wuhan University People's Hospital, introduced that in many clinical cases, the patient did not have typical respiratory symptoms such as fever and cough at the time of consultation, and only the first symptoms of digestive system symptoms: Such as mild appetite, fatigue, poor mentality, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, etc .; first manifestations of neurological symptoms such as headache; first manifestations of cardiovascular system symptoms such as palpitation, chest tightness, etc .; first manifestations of ophthalmic symptoms such as conjunctivitis ; Only mild sore limbs or lower back muscles . Experts reminded that the above-mentioned patients with non-respiratory system as the first performance are easy to go to relevant departments for treatment, especially in gastroenterology. The lack of obvious specific clinical manifestations increases the difficulty of diagnosis, easily leads to missed diagnosis or misdiagnosis, and increases the chance of infection. Medical staff must be alert to patients with poor appetite, fatigue, muscle soreness (including mild soreness), and mental disorders, and make timely investigations. Such "atypical" patients need to strengthen self-isolation, and medical staff should also strengthen self-protection.
306 posted on 01/24/2020 5:45:01 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Edward Teach

No...every time someone gets the virus, a corona gets its lime.


307 posted on 01/24/2020 5:45:35 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: abigkahuna

Aaack! Not again!


308 posted on 01/24/2020 5:45:50 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: BusterDog

it looks dead in there..like no American hospital . Maybe they are like that in france.


309 posted on 01/24/2020 5:47:47 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: abigkahuna

“China coronavirus: Wuhan residents describe ‘doomsday’ scenes as patients overwhelm hospitals”

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047613/china-coronavirus-wuhan-residents-describe-doomsday-scenes


310 posted on 01/24/2020 5:47:49 PM PST by BusterDog
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To: abigkahuna

Source: http://www.bjnews.com.cn/news/2020/01/24/679052.html

Translation:

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2020-01-24 20:06:29 Beijing News Reporter: Xu Wen Editor: Chen Si
New Coronavirus kit has sufficient production capacity but encounters transportation difficulties

Due to the urgency of the epidemic, companies that have developed kits have not yet obtained formal registration qualifications.

The Beijing News (Reporter Xu Wen) The epidemic of new coronavirus pneumonia is still ongoing, and there is news that the hospital’s test kit is urgent, causing patients to be unable to confirm the diagnosis in time. According to the Beijing News reporter, not all hospitals have the qualifications to use test kits. At present, many biological companies are expediting the production of kits, but there are difficulties in the transportation of kits.

Expedited production by many companies

A nucleic acid detection kit for detecting a new coronavirus is an important tool for determining whether a patient is infected.

The reporter combed and found that on January 10, the new coronavirus gene sequence was announced to the public, and many companies announced the development of test kits. Among them, Shanghai Genuo (hereinafter referred to as Shanghai Genuo) affiliated to Sinopharm China Biological is the first company to successfully develop a test kit.

On January 13, Soworld Biotech announced that after 3 days of overnight research and development, the development of a new coronavirus nucleic acid detection kit was completed. On January 15, BGI announced that its subsidiary Shenzhen BGI Yinyuan Pharmaceutical Technology Co., Ltd. has successfully developed a test kit.

On January 20, Kehua Biological announced that Tianlong Technology, a subsidiary of the company, urgently tackled the development and production of test kits. On the same day, Shengxiang Bio announced that the kit was successfully developed in only 72 hours, and the test results can be obtained in as short as 30 minutes. On the same day, Daan Gene confirmed in an interview with the media that the company has developed a kit.

On January 22, Xilong Science responded to the Shenzhen Stock Exchange’s attention letter and stated that its subsidiary Icway Bioassay Kit had been listed.

From the information released by various companies, there is currently sufficient production capacity of test kits. Wu Qingyi, the secretary of the company, said in an interview today that the company is providing the market with a production rate of 100,000 copies per day. The relevant person in charge of Shanghai Jeno also told the media today that according to the calculation that each kit can be used for 50 people, the current production volume of the kit can be used for tens of thousands of tests.

Most logistics have stopped shipping, transportation becomes a new problem

Although many biotechnology companies have successfully developed kits, the “National First Provincial Coronary Virus Infection Pneumonia Case Confirmation Procedure” issued by the National Health and Medical Commission only circled the kits of three companies to choose from.

The above documents mentioned that the provincial CDC nucleic acid detection kits can be selected from three companies: Shanghai Pharom Biotechnology Co., Ltd., Shanghai Genuo Biotechnology Co., Ltd., and Shanghai Berger Medical Technology Co., Ltd.

Kobayashi (pseudonym), a sales person responsible for the supply of a new coronavirus kit from a biological company in Hubei, told reporters that there is no technical difficulty in developing the kit. Many companies have successfully developed the virus gene sequence within a short period of time after the virus gene sequence was announced. Only three companies were named in the first document of the Health Commission, so the disease control department could only go to these three companies for procurement, and the output naturally could not keep up. “Some people with disease control responsible for procurement took cash and went to the door of these three companies to squat Wait for the kit. “

Due to the urgency of the epidemic, all companies that have developed kits have not yet obtained formal registration qualifications. Kobayashi told reporters that the registration process of the kit is complicated, and it normally takes two to three years to obtain formal registration qualifications.

Since January 22, the National Health and Medical Commission has repeatedly revised many documents such as the prevention and control of new-type coronavirus pneumonia, and the diagnosis and treatment plan, and has not made recommendations to the test kit vendors. Since then, the procurement of kits everywhere is not limited to three companies. The reporter was informed that many biological company kits have been supplied to the disease control centers of many provinces and cities nationwide.

But delivery has become a new challenge. Wu Qingyi said that since most of the logistics had been suspended before the Spring Festival, the company’s sales staff basically adopted the personal delivery model.

For blocked areas, the detection kit is even more difficult to access. Kobayashi told reporters that after the Wuhan access corridor was closed, the kits could not enter Wuhan. Yesterday, colleagues of the company took thousands of human kits and took them to Wuhan.

Daily testing samples will be increased from 200 to 2000

The kit can give test results within 3 hours, but a case is not diagnosed so quickly.

According to an official report, from January 16 to January 22, the process of detecting suspected cases in Wuhan is as follows: the first diagnosis of the hospital through standardized pre-diagnosis, combined with clinical examination, laboratory examination and chest imaging examination; After the consultation, suspected cases were confirmed and sampled. The disease control center of the jurisdiction transferred the samples to the city’s disease control; the city’s disease control center transferred to the provincial disease control center for nucleic acid testing. The provincial CDC can detect more than 200 samples every day. It takes about 2 days from the start of sampling to the return of results.

Why not send a kit to the hospital for direct testing? In fact, not all hospitals have biosafety labs that meet protection requirements.

According to China’s “Infectious Diseases Prevention and Control Law”, since the country has incorporated the new type of coronavirus pneumonia into the Class B infectious diseases, adopting Class A management, the detection of samples of this type of pathogens is managed according to highly pathogenic pathogenic microorganisms, and the relevant samples are tested and transported It must meet the relevant requirements of biosafety management, and pathogen-related experimental activities should be carried out in a biosafety laboratory with the corresponding protection level.

Waiting for the disease control department to issue a test result, will it affect patient treatment? A person familiar with the Wuhan medical system told reporters that at present, doctors at hospitals in Wuhan that receive fever patients at selected sites through consultations, combined with lung CT and other test results, even if there is no test result from the kit, can basically determine whether the patient may be infected with the new coronavirus. , And be treated in accordance with the corresponding diagnosis and treatment process.

However, the official number of confirmed cases depends on the test results of the kit. According to the National Health and Medical Commission monitoring program, nucleic acid testing is an important step in the diagnosis of suspected cases of new coronavirus pneumonia.

On January 18 and 19, Wuhan reported a sudden increase in the number of confirmed cases. One of the reasons was that for the first time on January 16, a test kit was obtained from the National Center for Disease Control and Prevention and a nucleic acid test was performed on suspected cases.

The reporter learned from the Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Committee that, starting on January 22, Wuhan has designated some hospitals and municipal disease control centers and other biosafety laboratories with corresponding protection levels to carry out the detection of pathogenic nucleic acids in related samples. The first batch of 10 institutions is expected to be fully operational. It can detect nearly 2,000 samples per day. It is planned to urgently transport 30,000 copies of kits to the designated testing institutions. At present, 6,000 copies have been distributed.

With the continuous distribution of 30,000 kits, it is still unknown whether the number of confirmed patients will increase significantly.

Beijing News reporter Xu Wen

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311 posted on 01/24/2020 5:48:13 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: TermLimits4All

This is not a joke at all. We used to test for this in the Emergency Management System. I am sure the hospitals are dusting off their protocols.


312 posted on 01/24/2020 5:51:50 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Artcore

Your question is irrelevant. Most of those other viruses (and any “out there” in a significant way at present, in terms of numbers of people infected) have different characteristics. Flu? THIS virus is much more contagious overall than any flu presently causing significant problems, it is much hardier outside the body than any flu (actually part of the “how contagious” assessment), AND it has a relatively high mortality rate, running around 3%, it appears. Last years flu(s) were about 0.075% (using “middle” estimates for the number of cases.) Plus a vaccine that can actually be given to the general populace is at least a year away, if a modestly effective vaccine can be even be developed. Even flu vaccines that mostly miss the mark usually show some lowering of fatality rates.

Now, I understand the point that a lot of “scare” is being whipped up, fears that this is some Chinese bioweapon (if it is, it’s a really poor one) run amok, imminent collapse of OUR health care system is assumed, 65 million people may die, racism rears its ugly head, some claim it’s retribution from God...

IMO, both extremes of reaction do nothing but make the problem worse by hindering our ability to properly recognize the threat and resolutely take action.


313 posted on 01/24/2020 5:55:41 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: AU72

There was a time when I was thinking of writing a story about a manufactured virus that had a decaying membrane that would be released and it would spread silently, but tigger when the membrane finally dissolved. The result would be that it would be everywhere at once...there would be no “patient zero.”

Couldn’t figure out how to make that work. Maybe someone did.


314 posted on 01/24/2020 5:58:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: RummyChick

No. Look for lots of activity at Dietrich.


315 posted on 01/24/2020 6:00:29 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

He is a Righteous Man.

The Waklin’ Dude is coming.


316 posted on 01/24/2020 6:01:15 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: chris37

Stu Redmond hisself.


317 posted on 01/24/2020 6:02:17 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SteelCowboy

The other thing we don’t know is how many are sick at home, unable to or afraid to go to the hospital. When they start burning homes...that’s a bad sign.


318 posted on 01/24/2020 6:03:38 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: steve86

Use Vaseline around edges. Except on foam.


319 posted on 01/24/2020 6:04:25 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/health/fort-detrick-lab-shut-down-after-failed-safety-inspection-all/article_767f3459-59c2-510f-9067-bb215db4396d.html

All research at a Fort Detrick laboratory that handles high-level disease-causing material, such as Ebola, is on hold indefinitely after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found the organization failed to meet biosafety standards.


320 posted on 01/24/2020 6:07:21 PM PST by RummyChick
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