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Should an employer be allowed to hire and fire employees solely on their political beliefs?
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3805058/posts?page=112 ^ | 1/2/2020 | Hot Tobasco

Posted on 01/02/2020 2:30:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco

I just engaged in a conversation with a fellow here regarding U'Haul's decision to not hire any employees who use nicotine products. The conversation eventually evolved into politics and whether or not an employer had the right to either hire a potential employee or fire an employee based on their political beliefs.


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So how do you feel about it, should an employer be allowed to discriminate against a current employee to the point of terminating them or denying employment to potential employee simply because they are conservatives?
1 posted on 01/02/2020 2:30:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

It’s unConstitutional. therefore illegal.


2 posted on 01/02/2020 2:32:21 PM PST by BipolarBob (DNC: The party of pernicious knids, wangdoodles and hornswogglers.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The people you work with should never know your political beliefs.
They should never know anything that doesn’t have anything to do with work.
It used to be an unwritten rule in polite society, you never discussed religion or politics at work.


3 posted on 01/02/2020 2:33:00 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

If someone owns a business they should be able to hire whoever they want.


4 posted on 01/02/2020 2:33:16 PM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: Hot Tabasco

No.
Political beliefs are supposedly protected.
Not that you’d know that.
Especially during the Obama administration when conservatives were being singled out and fired simply because of a difference in opinion.


5 posted on 01/02/2020 2:33:39 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yep...any at-will state should be golden.


6 posted on 01/02/2020 2:35:12 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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To: Hot Tabasco

A private employer has no obligation for free speech in the workplace.

You do not really want to get into protecting an employer from hiring and firing at will.


7 posted on 01/02/2020 2:35:27 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Hot Tabasco

Flip side is: you keep your politics to yourself in the workplace, preserve professional decorum. Outside of work, on your own time, fine. At work, you focus on work.


8 posted on 01/02/2020 2:35:56 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: BipolarBob

“It’s unConstitutional. therefore illegal.”

Care to point to the constitutional clause that says an employer cannot fire for beliefs? Hint: It doesn’t exist and it is not illegal.


9 posted on 01/02/2020 2:36:15 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Hire = Yes

Fire = No


10 posted on 01/02/2020 2:36:39 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: BipolarBob

The Congress cannot pass laws that infringe on free speech.

A private business is not bound by that restriction.

It would be horrible business, but it is allowed.

Would you really want a full bloodied Nazi a-hole spouting their crap on the shop floor? Or a black panther?


11 posted on 01/02/2020 2:37:32 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Hot Tabasco

Political beliefs are a protected Freedom of Speech Right.

So No. Employers cannot discriminate.


12 posted on 01/02/2020 2:38:05 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (As a matter of fact, I DID only read the excerpt. OK, I intended to. Next time for sure.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

As a former career labor/employment law attorney, private sector employers can generally make hiring/employment decisions based on criteria except for those which are prohibited by federal and/or state law. The federal prohibitions are religion, race, national origin, sex [in the “gender” sense], age (over age 40 protected), disability or perceived disability, and pregnancy.


13 posted on 01/02/2020 2:39:10 PM PST by hadrian
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To: Vermont Lt

Would you really want a full bloodied Nazi a-hole spouting their crap on the shop floor? Or a black panther?

Ever hear of Hollywood??


14 posted on 01/02/2020 2:39:51 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Meatspace
Here's your comment bro:

A private company should have the freedom to hire and fire people people based on their politics.

What you are supporting is blatant discrimination based on political beliefs, which is contrary to what the "At Will" laws were intended in order to protect the employer.

Another classic example of unintended consequences...........

15 posted on 01/02/2020 2:39:58 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

I wouldn’t hire a leftist. Employers should be able to dismiss any employee for any reason, but they can’t. This is the reason my former employer started only hiring temps, possibly taking them on as employees after several months.


16 posted on 01/02/2020 2:40:27 PM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Free speech” only applies to prohibit government action, not action by private employers.


17 posted on 01/02/2020 2:41:25 PM PST by hadrian
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To: V V Camp Enari 67-68
If someone owns a business they should be able to hire whoever they want.

This.

18 posted on 01/02/2020 2:42:07 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Hot Tabasco
SHOULD they be? THEY ALREADY ARE, and it's RAMPANT.

Good luck finding a job in education, entertainment, city services, etc., if your political views are made clear on Farcebook, Twitter, etc..

And if you DO have a job in these fields, were you hired RECENTLY?.. Doubtful!

19 posted on 01/02/2020 2:42:54 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I should have added that union and/or “protected concerted” activity by employees or job applicants is protected as to private sector employers by the National Labor Relations Act.


20 posted on 01/02/2020 2:43:19 PM PST by hadrian
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