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1 posted on 12/23/2019 10:45:37 AM PST by lowbridge
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“Aska, who had a record of repeatedly flunking flight tests”

Wait, what?


2 posted on 12/23/2019 10:49:25 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Out of the depths of leftist hell, I cry to you oh lord!)
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To: lowbridge

Well that’s certainly nicer than...

“OH F-——G S—T!!”


3 posted on 12/23/2019 10:49:38 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (How Can You Have Any Pudding If You Don't Eat Your Meat?)
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Their HR procedures need to be re-evaluated. This is almost criminal ineptitude, at least based on what was in the article.


4 posted on 12/23/2019 10:50:45 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: lowbridge

I’m confused. There were 2 captains onboard and 1st officer. The pilot is trying to fly the plans and everything that the 1st officer was doing was counter to the pilots actions. What was the other captain doing? One would think he would have been trying to at least verbally offer advice to the either the Piot or the 1st officer.


8 posted on 12/23/2019 10:59:05 AM PST by shotgun
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Aska, who had a record of repeatedly flunking flight tests, may have mistakenly thought the jet was stalling when its nose was pointed too high, so he jerked it down as the captain fought to pull up, according to the Nation Transportation Safety Board report.

Affirmative action can get you killed.


10 posted on 12/23/2019 11:02:58 AM PST by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: lowbridge

Reminds me of the PSA flight on approach to San Diego years ago when they collided with small aircraft, possibly a Cessna...One of those in the cockpit as they were nose diving down on a neighborhood...said his last words, which I believe were, “I love you mom”.


12 posted on 12/23/2019 11:05:55 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: lowbridge

What kind of name is Aska? Sounds foreign to me.


14 posted on 12/23/2019 11:09:32 AM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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To: lowbridge

Apparently it was Aska who begged for mercy on his soul as quoted, for anyone wondering (and who didn’t want to go to the source to find out ).


19 posted on 12/23/2019 11:17:26 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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How sweet. He was wasting time at the moment he should have been flying the plane. Affirmative action hire who should have never been in that seat, caused the crash.

Tells me he was not thinking about flying the aircraft while he was fighting the captain for control.


21 posted on 12/23/2019 11:20:32 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Affirmative action kills. He was there for one reason only. His background wasn’t checked because he was African


22 posted on 12/23/2019 11:21:05 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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‘we would not have offered him a position’ based on the (co-pilot’s) failure to disclose that information on his application,”

They didn't do a reference check?

23 posted on 12/23/2019 11:22:32 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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There’s a good report on the accident at Forbes.com.

Aska was an accident waiting to happen. A self-centered con man who managed to slip through the cracks in the screening process.

Atlas is not without blame. They put their need for crew members above good judgment that would have terminated Aska early on.

I’m not going to second guess the Captaincies, but I wonder why he gave the airplane back to Aska when things deteriorating.

Part of flying experience is learning judgement, and being able to identify an error chain.


26 posted on 12/23/2019 11:24:54 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: lowbridge

Looks like a stall to me.


37 posted on 12/23/2019 11:45:12 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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“Lord, you have my soul,”

Regardless of the circumstances, I hope and pray, that these are my words... and that He is agreeable.

38 posted on 12/23/2019 11:49:10 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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"...so he jerked it down as the captain fought to pull up..."

Brilliant design there. Two people with control of the plane's control surfaces at the same time.

41 posted on 12/23/2019 11:54:41 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The GOP never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.)
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The Captain reached around the throttles to move the flap handle, and activated the TOGA switches by accident. When the aircraft pitched up, the F/O overreacted and pushed the column full forward. The Captain tried to compensate by pulling back on his column. The opposing force was so great that the control columns disconnected. The Boeing 767 has an incredible safety record, and still does, this one was flown into the ground.


46 posted on 12/23/2019 12:11:28 PM PST by 6AL-4V
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Go around was activated:

The crew then began configuring the airplane for the approach and landing, and extended the flaps to 1. About 25 seconds later,the airplane’s FDR recorded fluctuations in the lateral acceleration of the airplane, and about5 seconds after these fluctuations were recorded on the FDR, the go-around mode was also recorded as being engaged, followed immediately by an increase in the thrust of the engines.

https://dms.ntsb.gov/public/63000-63499/63168/631156.pdf

Entire docket here:

https://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/hitlist.cfm?docketID=63168&CurrentPage=1&EndRow=15&StartRow=1&order=1&sort=0&TXTSEARCHT=


48 posted on 12/23/2019 12:13:50 PM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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I spent a several years of my life investigating air crashes. It is somehow gruesome overall but more so in Africa with absolutely different challenges. Imagine a situation when it is not that easy to get to the site and you should expect that not only phones, tablets and laptops from the victims are gone but also flesh off their bones for dinner and the wreck disassembled for scrap metal and all of it on short order.


56 posted on 12/23/2019 12:49:31 PM PST by NorseViking
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“Lord”? Or “Allah”? Big difference!


62 posted on 12/23/2019 1:55:41 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: lowbridge

He got his tops and bottoms mixed up.


74 posted on 04/03/2020 1:32:35 PM PDT by jetson (chiwowa)
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