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Sad situation.

Brother blaming cops in his angry gofundme page. I get it.

But the cops had to take these guys out for public safety.

1 posted on 12/06/2019 1:44:57 PM PST by RummyChick
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First day being a solo driver
2 posted on 12/06/2019 1:45:54 PM PST by RummyChick
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But the cops had to take these guys out for public safety.

Maybe, but I'd like to hear more details. Whose gun was responsible for the civilian drivers death? And whose gun was responsible for the UPS drivers death? If it was the cops, then there is an argument that maybe taking out 'these guys' should have been handled differently?

3 posted on 12/06/2019 1:48:29 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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“But the cops had to take these guys out for public safety.”

You’re very accommodating. Good citizenship. The brother should take your lesson.


10 posted on 12/06/2019 1:58:00 PM PST by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under sixty.)
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Did the cops have to let the van get into heavy traffic? I don’t know how long the chase took, or if there was any way to get ahead of it.

I don’t know if the cops were taking cover behind a private vehicle moving next to the UPS van, or if that was an unmarked police car.

It’s too early to blame anyone but the robbers, but there are real questions here, about police procedures.

And the woman in the jewelry store. Whose bullet hit her, robber’s, or owner’s?


12 posted on 12/06/2019 1:59:12 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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But the cops had to take these guys out for public safety.

Did you watch the video?

The cops were taking cover behind civilian vehicles. THAT HAD PEOPLE IN THEM! And shooting into another vehicle with a hostage inside, killing him and killing a motorist stranded in the line of fire. Over jewelry.

What a sh*t show.

14 posted on 12/06/2019 2:01:54 PM PST by Drew68
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Florida law enforcement.

Shoot first, figure it all out later.


17 posted on 12/06/2019 2:04:57 PM PST by MplsSteve
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Tis better to kill two innocent (Don't forget about the other victim who was shot and died for having the audacity to get stuck in traffic) citizens, than 4 jewel thieves go free.

The event was a monumental f'up putting civilians, who were stuck in a crossfire at risk, because the cops were using them as cover.
24 posted on 12/06/2019 2:16:34 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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I would be asking the regular route driver who called in sick a lot of questions... a mere coincidence?


25 posted on 12/06/2019 2:16:52 PM PST by dmzTahoe
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On another Thread someone said that the Perps had killed a Woman at the Jewelry Store which they concluded led to the Cops actions. That now appears to be false.

WTH were the Cops thinking, they were in the OK Corral?

Anyone got Odds that the UPS Driver as well as the guy in the Car were killed by “friendly fire”?


27 posted on 12/06/2019 2:18:22 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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with innocent motorist Richard Cutshaw, a 70-year-old union representative who was two years away from retirement ...

Wow, talk about dragging out work to maximize a pension. While I might be doing this myself to maximize SS, there is no reason for the reporter to add this tidbit into the story.

31 posted on 12/06/2019 2:23:06 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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https://wsvn.com/news/local/fbi-4-dead-including-ups-driver-after-police-chase-ends-in-gunfire-after-coral-gables-armed-robbery/


36 posted on 12/06/2019 2:31:49 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Yikes!


40 posted on 12/06/2019 2:39:35 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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This may have been the UPS driver right here trying to belly out of the truck. Looks like their brown uniform and the perps were both black. Father of two little girls.

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53 posted on 12/06/2019 3:13:13 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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Moral of the story: do not shoot guns on the freeway. Wow. The police in Florida need to visit Los Angeles, ride along with CHP on five car chases, and then go home after the weekend.


56 posted on 12/06/2019 4:16:52 PM PST by Falconspeed
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I’m thinking that a jewelry heist that just happened to occur on the day a certain UPS driver calls out sick makes that driver a potential accomplice.


57 posted on 12/06/2019 4:22:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Records show that both men have extensive felony criminal records,

Our fabled Justice System at work, once again. WHY in the Hell were they loose, especially after committing felonies? Probation? Bail?

It seems the Justice System shirks it's duty and recycles these violent people back into Society, perhaps hoping the CCWs will take care of the problem, if not, the police, who seem at first blush to have been trigger-happy.

62 posted on 12/06/2019 5:46:52 PM PST by Oatka
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Yeah, lets start a shootout in the middle of a busy freeway and kill a couple of innocent people. “For public safety’ after all.


66 posted on 12/07/2019 6:53:55 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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Hard to know the hypothetical, but my view is always that the cops should do EVERYTHING to avoid having innocent public caught in a crossfire or cause a serious or deadly traffic accident.

These guys hadn’t killed anyone at that point. It was just stuff that they tried to steal. There was already an evidentiary trail at the store. They should have used it and surveillance such as news or police helicopter to get them out of highway and citizen congestion. Anything to avoid the stupid mad shootout and chase that ended with 2 innocents caught in the crossfire.


73 posted on 12/07/2019 6:27:37 PM PST by apoliticalone (Without freedom of speech we have no democracy and will lose all our freedoms.)
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