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Google’s Secret ‘Project Nightingale’ Gathers Personal Health Data on Millions of Americans
wsj.com ^ | 11/11/19 | Rob Copeland

Posted on 11/11/2019 1:01:01 PM PST by ransomnote

Search giant is amassing health records from Ascension facilities in 21 states; patients not yet informed

Google is engaged with one of the country’s largest health-care systems to collect and crunch the detailed personal health information of millions of Americans across 21 states.

The initiative, code-named “Project Nightingale,” appears to be the largest in a series of efforts by Silicon Valley giants to gain access to personal health data and establish a toehold in the massive health-care industry. Amazon.com Inc., Apple Inc. and Microsoft Corp. are also aggressively pushing into health care, though they haven’t yet struck deals of this scope.

Google began the effort in secret last year with St. Louis-based Ascension, the second-largest health system in the U.S., with the data sharing accelerating since summer, the documents show.

The data involved in Project Nightingale encompasses lab results, doctor diagnoses and hospitalization records, among other categories, and amounts to a complete health history, including patient names and dates of birth.

Neither patients nor doctors have been notified. At least 150 Google employees already have access to much of the data on tens of millions of patients, according to a person familiar with the matter and documents.
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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: applewatch; fitbit; google; healthcare; healthdata; oshpd; projectnightingale; quantumsupremacy; spying; surveillance; technotyranny
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To: ransomnote

If Google slanders you, erroneously says you smoke, when you do not, how do you get justice? They keep secret data until you are harmed.


41 posted on 11/11/2019 3:13:05 PM PST by TheNext (Generation FReeper)
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To: Retrofitted

Still only true if personal identification information is removed.

We are allowed to get med device data from the hospitals by agreement to monitor and improve equipment, but it must have the personal information stripped and if it is not it must immediately be reported and deleted. Not sure the final end steps on the back end, but I think the patient ends up getting informed of the breach.


42 posted on 11/11/2019 3:19:22 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: LouieFisk

Learn to separate concerns on to multiple tablet computers and smart phones. Big Tech wants you to use ONE universal phone with all their apps.

Split it up.

Smart phone is ONLY for phone calls.
Hotspot to other tablet pcs for critical searching.
Banking on separate pc.
Internet browse with anonymous vpn.
Passwords on never connected gadget.

Gadgets are cheap. Separate concerns.


43 posted on 11/11/2019 3:27:30 PM PST by TheNext (Generation FReeper)
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To: setter

...no other search engines come close to the amount of info google offers.
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For a quick search without clicking, that’s true. But you can get the same sites with less pre-click info as well as sites goog puts way back on page 3 or so on any other search engine. Goog prioritizes searches that cover the commonly asked questions and ‘people also searched for...’ lists on the search return page.

Some quick facts, maybe out-of-date:

94% of all internet usage involves Google in some manner.

Only 5% of all searches on goog result in a click-thru.

Rich snippets accounted for more click-thrus than goog’s pre-digested lists of questions.

Sales conversions for goog searches is 3%.

If you think your searches are turning up cloned articles, they probably are. Content marketers are trained to accommodate goog’s algorithm in outline, subheadings and attention to the ‘questions asked’ and ‘also searched for’.
You want answers and goog says it wants searcher satisfaction, but that is more about format and a hit-the-high-points approach if a site wants to be in the 1st page goog returns.

You may just find more authoritative content on the first page of other search engines. For example, I’ve found better medical information on the 1st page of StartPage returns. StartPage seems to prioritize keywords and base authority on expertise, while goog seems to depend a lot on backlinks.

I’m not sure how the dumbing down of the population is affecting goog’s search results, but I suspect it plays a role. More people may click on a general knowledge blog site than an NIH study abstract.


44 posted on 11/11/2019 3:29:49 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: ransomnote

I do not touch Google and I would not touch Google or g-mail with a 10 foot poll. I was thinking about setting up an account with Uber. When I learned that you must have a g-mail account (Google e-mail) to get a ride wit Uber I dropped the idea. I will take the bus instead. If you take Uber to a medical appointment Google will keep the data. If you take Uber to a gun show Google would probably refuse your rides to your medical appointments. Big Brother is watching.


45 posted on 11/11/2019 3:44:31 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: setter
Ixquick uses gurgle anonymously.
46 posted on 11/11/2019 3:55:11 PM PST by Cold Heart (.)
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To: reed13k

Doesn’t this apply, tho? https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/faq/482/does-hipaa-permit-a-doctor-to-share-patient-information-for-treatment-over-the-phone/index.html

Seems like all they have to claim is “this facilitates treatment” and “we put the recommended safeguards in place” and then they can transfer the data, including the protected data, however they see fit. Which, of course, they’re doing regardless of what they “have” to do.


47 posted on 11/11/2019 4:00:38 PM PST by Retrofitted
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To: LouieFisk

I think everyone over 55 starts getting snail mail funeral advertisements.


48 posted on 11/11/2019 4:13:56 PM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; azishot; ...

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49 posted on 11/11/2019 4:35:37 PM PST by bitt ((Epstein didn't kill himself!))
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To: dljordan
“Giant HIPAA violation.”

Pay off the right people and there are no violations.

Violate the wrong people and they have no rights!

50 posted on 11/11/2019 4:45:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ransomnote

They can have my health data. I defy statistics. At 83, everything works, nothing hurts, and I don’t take prescription drugs—except two very rudimentary BP drugs which have brought my BP down to the average for a teenage boy.

I suspect they really don’t want my data because it defies pharmaceutical company standards. Horrors!!!!


51 posted on 11/11/2019 5:13:18 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: MeganC

I wonder if Google is buying health information from government agencies like OSHPD in California? OSHPD has hundreds of millions of people’s health care records dating back to the 1980s.


Google recently bought Fitbit just so they could have access to peoples records through that app.


52 posted on 11/11/2019 5:20:41 PM PST by angry elephant (My MAGA cap is from a rally in Washingon state in May 2016)
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To: LouieFisk
If you search “big toe hurts”, Big Google Brother adds it to your database in their records.

And in a few minutes, you start getting ads for big toe remedies.

53 posted on 11/11/2019 5:29:35 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: HamiltonJay
If this data has not been de-identified, Ascension has violated federal law by giving it to Google.

Not if Google is engaged as a contractor and has signed the requisite non-disclosure/confidentiality agreements.

54 posted on 11/11/2019 5:38:02 PM PST by semimojo
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To: ransomnote
I see the 👽 aliens won’t need to do probes anymore with accessible electronic health records.
55 posted on 11/11/2019 5:42:40 PM PST by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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To: Veto!
"They can have my health data. I defy statistics. At 83, everything works, nothing hurts, and I don’t take prescription drugs—except two very rudimentary BP drugs which have brought my BP down to the average for a teenage boy."

That's great!

Now please make my day and tell me that you drink whisky and have a cigar every day. ;)

56 posted on 11/11/2019 6:19:16 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY

Wine.

Whiskey and cigars are guy things.

Veto!
(The Girl)


57 posted on 11/11/2019 6:30:32 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: ransomnote
This important document produced by The Citizens' Council for Health Freedom and Twila Brase ...

22 HIPAA HARMS

details how HIPPA is not to protect privacy but to formalize how it can be intruded upon.

Example:
“HIPAA is often described as a privacy rule. It is not. In fact, HIPAA is a disclosure regulation, and it has effectively dismantled the longstanding moral and legal tradition of patient confidentiality.” –Dr. Richard Sobel, Associate, Du Bois Institute, Harvard University

Twila Brase is President of The Citizens’ Council for Health Freedom (CCHF) - website: https://www.cchfreedom.org with this mission statement:

Protect health care choices, individualized patient care and medical and genetic privacy rights.

If you listen to Christian radio, you have likely heard her daily 1 minute broadcasts detailing the fight against obamacare, expense, and other privacy issues regarding medical care. She runs another site that advocates for doctors who run practices outside the insurance realm - https://www.cchfreedom.org .
58 posted on 11/11/2019 6:37:10 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Veto!

LOL! You have a few years on me, but I’ll probably be ok.

I drink wine too. ;)


59 posted on 11/11/2019 7:17:52 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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Wasn’t Google buying Fitbit?


60 posted on 11/12/2019 4:44:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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