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Coast Guard honoring Edmund Fitzgerald sinking 44 years ago
ABC 5 Cleveland ^ | 11/10/2019 | Courtney Shaw

Posted on 11/10/2019 6:55:43 PM PST by LukeL

CLEVELAND — Sunday marks 44 years since the Edmund Fitzgerald sank near Whitefish Point in Michigan.

Twenty-nine men died that day. (excerpt)


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: edmundfitzgerald; greatlakes; lakesuperior; michigan; nothonoring; remembering; shipwreck; ssedmundfitzgerald
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
I think they would honor the lives lost but the “sinking “?

This is one of my big bug-a-boos. . . the misuse of the word honoring for such a thing as this. They can “remember” the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald, they can “memorialize” that sinking. . . But “honoring” it? Even “honoring” the dead may not be appropriate, because what did they do to be honored? You honor heroes, not merely people who were victims of a tragedy. Perhaps there were unsung heroes among those victims who should have been so honored, but we cannot know what they did before they died tragic deaths when the ship went down. . . So all we can do is memorialize the tragedy.

This is watering down the use of the English word “honor” when we should use it.

41 posted on 11/10/2019 8:18:39 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: carriage_hill

That earworm infected everyone who clicked on the link. Although I do love that song........


42 posted on 11/10/2019 8:19:16 PM PST by Viking2002 (..........and Epstein didn't kill himself. Yeah, I went there.)
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To: LukeL

Dern near slipped past me this year, but listening now...

It’s said that Gordon Lightfoot spoke the families of each of the 29 men who died to ask their permission to write a song about the disaster.

That’s class.


43 posted on 11/10/2019 9:15:21 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I have seen 12 foot waves on that lake. Turns out they get a lot higher than that-
https://www.michiganradio.org/post/buoy-logs-highest-wave-ever-recorded-lake-superior-first-snow-hits


44 posted on 11/10/2019 9:43:03 PM PST by matthew fuller (Pray for President Donald J. Trump, Sydney Powell, James O'Keefe, and Thomas J. Fitton.)
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To: Equine1952

No radar.


45 posted on 11/10/2019 10:15:16 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Equine1952

And it looks like were in for that kind of weather again. As I write this I’m sitting in a town on lake Huron and we are expected to get 6 inches of snow overnight.

CC


46 posted on 11/10/2019 10:32:51 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: LukeL
This was HARD TO FIND
Amazingly, after 15 minutes of searching around the interwebs, I got the link out of FR. Muhahahahahaha

The Wreck of the Walter Fritz Mondale
http://www.capsteps.com/sounds/mondale-wreck.mp3
47 posted on 11/10/2019 10:39:10 PM PST by Crazieman (Civil war is near certain now.)
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To: bigbob

Lightfoot was a little perturbed cuz of the scant attention paid to the event by the media.
Some interesting facts about the lyrics...
The “witch of November” relates to a period I think in Nov. 1910 or so when 4 or 5 ships sank in Lake Superor in heavy storms.
“The lake it is said never gives up its dead”...Superior is deep and cold...and bodies in it do not swell up from decomposition and float up..
“Does anyone know where the love of God goes...”
Poignant reminder of a theodicy. I.e...if there is a God...why is there evil in the world?
Finally...
“....they may have broke deep and took water, and all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives and sons and the daughters” No one has been recovered from the wreckage site. I think they only saw one body underwater...thats it.

Lightfoot exhibits many lyric gems like that in so many of his songs...truly a master.


48 posted on 11/10/2019 11:00:34 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: LukeL

I think that I have to disagree with the Coast Guard here. Those 79 guys were just trying to make a living- why are they honoring their death?


49 posted on 11/10/2019 11:29:15 PM PST by matthew fuller (Pray for President Donald J. Trump, Sydney Powell, James O'Keefe, and Thomas J. Fitton.)
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To: LukeL

Best interview ever! Tommy Mischke interviews an author of a history of the Edmund Fitzgerald. The man’s last interview of the day and Mischke sings his questions to the tune of Gordon’s song.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tommy+mischke+edmund+fitzgerald&view=detail&mid=4B8BBBA0089467383F8C4B8BBBA0089467383F8C&FORM=VIRE


50 posted on 11/11/2019 12:01:06 AM PST by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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To: yesthatjallen

In other words, Gordon Lightfoot put the newspaper article to song.


51 posted on 11/11/2019 3:15:38 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: LukeL

40 years ago...I hope people won’t ever forget...


52 posted on 11/11/2019 4:35:30 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Getready
Superior is deep and cold...and bodies in it do not swell up from decomposition and float up..

Knew a guy when I lived in Michigan. His uncle was the town drunk in Munising, which is on the shore of Lake Superior. One night he staggered out of a local bar and down to the pier, where he apparently fell in.

Search efforts were made but no body was ever found. He was presumed dead and they held a memorial service.

Seven years later his perfectly preserved body washed up on a beach 13 miles away. They had to take it to an undertaker and do the whole funeral thing all over again.


53 posted on 11/11/2019 9:28:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Norm Cash...?


54 posted on 11/11/2019 9:34:19 AM PST by dakine
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To: Biggirl
In other words, Gordon Lightfoot put the newspaper article to song.

Thank God he isn't doing that anymore. Can you imagine?

"A very influential government man
Whose name must remain unspoken
Testified in a House bunker
Where security remains unbroken
He came there to explain
How Trump meddled with Ukraine
So his presidency must be broken....


55 posted on 11/11/2019 9:39:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Equine1952

Very true...one day I was out in my 19 foot bowrider, boating on Long Island Sound, when I went into a thick fog bank. I couldn’t see anything, but after 15 minutes the fog lifted and a Sub was about 1/4 miles from me...I was glad I didn’t hit it...


56 posted on 11/11/2019 12:03:45 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: NorthMountain

I’d love to get a 1:160 scale of that ship. My model railroad would be complete...


57 posted on 11/11/2019 12:07:02 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Songcraft

I wonder if the Arthur M. Anderson is still around?


58 posted on 11/11/2019 12:08:48 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Deplorable American1776
Arthur M Anderson?

Marine Traffic dot com lists her as still active, and currently underway on Lake Huron.

59 posted on 11/11/2019 12:19:50 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Deplorable American1776; NorthMountain

Interesting question.   Here's a couple more articles I found (which were posted earlier this year), which also mention that she was going back into active service.

       "SS Arthur M. Anderson"

       "Arthur M. Anderson will return to service"



60 posted on 11/11/2019 1:45:38 PM PST by Songcraft
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