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Dyson shows electric cars are too easy to make. US$2.5 billion project was doomed to fail
South China Morning Post ^ | 11 Oct 2019

Posted on 10/12/2019 8:44:51 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Inventor James Dyson shows electric cars are too easy to make. That’s why his US$2.5 billion project was doomed to fail

Dyson has now abandoned its £2 billion plan to branch out and take on the likes of Tesla and Volkswagen Whereas cars with a combustion engine need about 30,000 components, an electric vehicle needs just 11,000 parts, according to Goldman Sachs

Dozens of start-ups have entered the fray over the past few years, from Tesla and Lucid Motors in the US, to Byton and NIO in China. Since 2011, electric vehicle start-ups have raised US$18 billion in funding, and announced 43 models and the capacity to make 3.9 million vehicles a year, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance. That’s a lot of competition.

Volkswagen alone has announced plans to invest US$52 billion in electrification as it targets production of at least 2 million electric vehicles a year by 2025. Its existing network of dealerships in 153 countries will make it considerably easier to sell those cars.

Others are struggling. Shares in NIO, a Shanghai-based firm backed by Tencent and Baidu, have fallen 86 per cent from a post-IPO peak last year as its losses have deepened. Faraday Future, a Chinese-backed, US-based rival, teetered on the brink of insolvency before clawing itself back from the edge.

Better to concentrate resources on his core competencies. A failure at a later date would have been much more painful, and potentially ruinous.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: automotive; dyson; evs
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All of that and California will have to up the ante for EVs without a secure local charging station.
1 posted on 10/12/2019 8:44:51 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Shares in NIO,..have fallen 86 per cent from a post-IPO peak last year

That’s MORE than my HOPES and DREAMS have FALLEN in the same time!!!

I have a chart and everything.


2 posted on 10/12/2019 8:56:26 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Inventor James Dyson...........

His vacuum cleaners suck.


3 posted on 10/12/2019 8:57:43 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: DUMBGRUNT

And of course NONE of the components are made using ANY petro related items. All natural plastic, rubber, lubrican.......... Oh?! Well at least during the manufacturing process only solar and wind turbines are used to supply the energ-—————— Oh!? Well.......... Never mind.


4 posted on 10/12/2019 8:58:02 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I recently turned 74. I will be out of here, hopefully, before any more of these nutty EV ideas take complete hold.

On one side we have the environmental wackos trying to shut down any type of power generation coming from any source except solar, wind and water(only if it does not include building dams). Meanwhile on the other side, they want only EV autos. I guess with the libs in Cal looking the other way with all the urban outdoorsmen crapping in the street, they are getting insensitized for the horse patties coming as we revert back in time to the horse era.

5 posted on 10/12/2019 8:58:33 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

With electric cars you don’t actually have to see where the energy is coming from, since the conversion to electricity takes place somewhere else. So you can call it “environmentally friendly” with the east that you can call a man a woman if that man, I mean woman, chooses.


6 posted on 10/12/2019 9:00:16 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Mouton

I am 72 and it’s another MAGA day!


7 posted on 10/12/2019 9:01:24 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The same east, I mean. Damn grammar checker never works.


8 posted on 10/12/2019 9:01:57 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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"Inventor James Dyson shows electric cars are too easy to make. That’s why his US$2.5 billion project was doomed to fail"

That's absolute nonsense. If it's so easy, why did it fail?

It failed because there are dozens of IC (internal combustion) powered vehicles that provide better transportation for their buyers. They get owners reliably to their desired destinations comfortably (they give heat, air conditioning, cushioning, and adequate space) and safely (they have adequate range, fuel sources, reliability, and crashworthiness), and price for their owners.

Dyson obviously couldn't compete. Let him make hair dryers, they're "easy to make".

9 posted on 10/12/2019 9:02:54 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: rktman

And then there’s the $35 K to replace the battery.


10 posted on 10/12/2019 9:07:09 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Hammer. Nail. Head.


11 posted on 10/12/2019 9:09:19 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: NTHockey

All this electric stuff and you can’t even buy a decent trigger actuator.


12 posted on 10/12/2019 9:10:59 AM PDT by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It takes more workers to put together the electronic systems for the Tesla, than it does to set up and install the engine and transmission systems for gasoline vehicles. There is no “carbon savings” from battery run vehicles.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/20/tesla-car-battery-production-releases-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-gasoline-driving/


13 posted on 10/12/2019 9:12:51 AM PDT by Wuli
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“Inventor James Dyson...........

His vacuum cleaners suck.”

It his terminator technology was fantastic.


14 posted on 10/12/2019 9:28:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Low production cost makes it easy for new manufacturers to enter the market and destroy the value of your investment. Dyson’s approach of high quality and technical excellence also led to an impossibly large accumulation of sunk costs that could not be recovered.


15 posted on 10/12/2019 9:31:16 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: shelterguy

Inventor James Dyson...........

His vacuum cleaners suck.

And he had some fun adverts!!


16 posted on 10/12/2019 9:32:21 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Killer technology


17 posted on 10/12/2019 9:33:53 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: norwaypinesavage

It failed because there are dozens of IC (internal combustion) powered vehicles that provide better transportation for their buyers.

Yes, true today, but not in the coming years.

The majority of todays automotive R&D is going to EVs.

The Yaris and its kin will be around for many years.

Mid-price will go EV.


18 posted on 10/12/2019 9:48:28 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Did you mean the same ease? Once again you said same east. 8>)


19 posted on 10/12/2019 10:03:19 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Wuli

It takes more workers to put together the electronic systems for the Tesla, than it does to set up and install the engine and transmission systems for gasoline vehicles.

Not a surprise.

Tesla delivered 350,000 cars in 2018.

In 2018, the Ford F-Series pickup sold over ONE MILLION.
Toyota Corolla 900k +

CEO Elon Musk said that one of their biggest mistakes with their attempt at highly automating the production of the Model 3 was trying to automate tasks that humans are much better at than robots, like manipulating cables.

In order to facilitate the automation of manipulating cables, Tesla has been reducing the length of wiring harnesses in its vehicles.

Musk said that Model S has about 3 kilometers of wiring harnesses and Tesla brought it down to 1.5 kilometers in length for the Model 3.

But that’s just the beginning. Tesla is working on a whole new wiring architecture for future vehicle platforms and they aim to bring it down to just 100 meters starting with the Model Y.

https://electrek.co/2019/07/22/tesla-revolutionary-wiring-architecture-robots-model-y/

ROBOTS AIN’T CHEAP, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION COSTS EVEN MORE.


20 posted on 10/12/2019 10:07:24 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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