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"Free Speech is Killing Us" Warns New York Times
frontpagemag.com ^ | Fri Oct 4, 2019 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/05/2019 2:33:35 PM PDT by ransomnote

President Trump is a threat to the First Amendment, says the New York Times, while repeatedly running op-eds arguing against the First Amendment.

Its current masterpiece is, Free Speech is Killing Us. 

Its innovative argument notes that ideas can lead to violence. Well then, if we're going to stop violence, we have to shut down the flow of ideas until we figure out what's going on here, right?

In 2019, this is what the New York Times has come up with.

Noxious speech is causing tangible harm. Yet this fact implies a question so uncomfortable that many of us go to great lengths to avoid asking it. Namely, what should we — the government, private companies or individual citizens — be doing about it?

Oh lots of people have no problem asking it. Nazis, Communists, assorted other well-wishers who want a totalitarian state.

The Founders were not unaware of the simple reality that bad actions can begin with bad speech. Their solution wasn't mass censorship and thought control. It says something about the degeneracy of liberals into leftist that this is the New York Times solution.

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1 posted on 10/05/2019 2:33:35 PM PDT by ransomnote
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The media wants to control speech.


2 posted on 10/05/2019 2:34:13 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Well I don’t believe it is, but if the Sulzbergers are that sure then we can shut down the New York Times for a trial decade and see if New York dies.


3 posted on 10/05/2019 2:36:44 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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If noxious speech can cause harm, they should shut down CNN and MSNBC right away. They are NOTHING but noxious speech.


4 posted on 10/05/2019 2:37:14 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Paid For By The Father of Lies. There is no truth in them.)
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To: ransomnote

There needs to be a three day waiting period to buy a New York Times paper.


5 posted on 10/05/2019 2:38:38 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: ransomnote

There needs to be a three day waiting period to buy a New York Times paper.


6 posted on 10/05/2019 2:38:45 PM PDT by seowulf
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It's curious that The Treasonous Left wants to "evolve" the Bill of Rights when, in it's current form, it's the only thing keeping them alive.

How about we "evolve" the 5th, 6th and 8th? Then, we can find them guilty at 2am, arrest them at 3am, and start torturing they and their family to death by dawn?

Is that "evolved" enough?

7 posted on 10/05/2019 2:39:01 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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I agree that America would be a better place if the New York Times was suppressed, but as a prudential matter, I wouldn’t want to start down that slippery slope.


8 posted on 10/05/2019 2:39:37 PM PDT by sphinx
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Pretty soon, “free speech” will only be exercised by The People through the establishment media in the same way that some claim that The People’s Second Amendment tights can only be exercised through the National Guard.


9 posted on 10/05/2019 2:39:49 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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The final PPh tells us how stupid and dangerous this author is:

>>In one of our conversations, Mr. Powell compared harmful speech to carbon pollution: People are allowed to drive cars. But the government can regulate greenhouse emissions, the private sector can transition to renewable energy sources, civic groups can promote public transportation and cities can build sea walls to prepare for rising ocean levels. We could choose to reduce all of that to a simple dictate: Everyone should be allowed to drive a car, and that’s that. But doing so wouldn’t stop the waters from rising around us.<<

Wrong on the analogy — speech can not be linked to anything except the receiver’s perception. Wrong on oceans rising from driving cars (we have yet to see the waters rise in 30 years of Chicken Little).

But as a lefty he wants the cancel culture — have the government eliminate speech lefty doesn’t like (no matter the weasel words he puts in the piece).


10 posted on 10/05/2019 2:39:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: ransomnote

America’s Pravda has spoken.


11 posted on 10/05/2019 2:40:31 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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What they really mean is they don’t like the push back they are getting from everyday people on social media and in comment sections; the few that still have it.

Polls (not done by leftists) rarely favor leftist thinking as well so they want to stifle free speech or silence us outright.

How very communist of them...


12 posted on 10/05/2019 2:41:00 PM PDT by Boomer (Our melting pot has turned into a pressure cooker)
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Well, if free speech must be constrained in the name of Civic harmony, let’s censor or shut down the NYT.


13 posted on 10/05/2019 2:44:15 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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I can see why free speech is killing the Gray Lady but America is just fine thank you.


14 posted on 10/05/2019 2:44:23 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ransomnote

New York Times buddy Joey Stalin killed lots of free speech.


15 posted on 10/05/2019 2:46:21 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: SkyDancer
The media wants to control speech.

The media are just the mouthpiece(s) for the leftists and they are fully on board with their agenda.

The leftists want to control everything. They are coming for the Bill of Rights - all of it.

16 posted on 10/05/2019 2:57:23 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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17 posted on 10/05/2019 3:05:36 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and t Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thranks to jonascord)!)
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To: seowulf
There needs to be a three seven day waiting period to buy a New York Times paper after passing a background check.
18 posted on 10/05/2019 3:15:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and t Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thranks to jonascord)!)
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I agree with them. Let’s shut down the Times.


19 posted on 10/05/2019 3:17:26 PM PDT by Brilliant
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The New York Times and the legacy media were all for freedom of speech and the press when they controlled 99% of the information flow. Now, they have a little competition from alternative media, and the inner totalitarian comes out.


20 posted on 10/05/2019 3:19:01 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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