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The National Personnel Records Fire of 1973
Youtube ^ | Sep 20, 2019 | The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembere

Posted on 09/20/2019 8:00:46 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

A fire in 1973 at the National Personnel Records Center in Overland, Missouri destroyed between 16 and 18 million United States Military service files. It is history that deserves to be remembered.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: fire; nationalrecords; nprc; usmilitary
Makes ya go Hummmm....
1 posted on 09/20/2019 8:00:46 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

One would think after the 1890 Census was mostly destroyed, both by accident and then intentionally, they would have learned. https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1996/spring/1890-census-1.html


2 posted on 09/20/2019 8:06:15 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: US Navy Vet

My Navy reserve and active duty records were destroyed by that fire. Fortunately, my own personnel files and discharge papers/data are still around. Other government organizations accept my data, yet Navy Bupers doesn’t accept that data.

Cal DMV is so screwed up. I have been recognized as a Vet on my last two driver’s licenses.

Yet Cal DMV does not consider that data, old passports and other older data for the new fly anywhere ID/Driver’s licenses.


3 posted on 09/20/2019 8:15:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: US Navy Vet
I guess this “news” makes me doubly glad I have been able to get the personnel records of my father, my grand and great grand fathers.

I was also able to get the complete records of my husband’s father, who died when my husband was three to four months old, having never seen his only child!

4 posted on 09/20/2019 8:18:35 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yup. Mine were there and the only record they have for me is the cover page from enlistment to the 4 ships I was on to my discharge. One reason I’ve had an issue at the VA. No records to back up anything I tell them. As I understand it the history is supposed to lean in the vets favor. Not quite.


5 posted on 09/20/2019 8:18:45 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: US Navy Vet

My granddad’s records were in that. All gone now.


6 posted on 09/20/2019 8:20:22 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither. Democrats are the party of sore losers and pedophiles.)
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To: Grampa Dave
So sorry to learn of your records being destroyed as well as the further insult of Cal DMV’s insult to your service.

Nothing worse than dealing with government bureaucrats, most of whom have never served their country. If they had, they might be more respectful.

7 posted on 09/20/2019 8:23:09 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: rktman
Yup. Mine were there and the only record they have for me is the cover page from enlistment to the 4 ships I was on to my discharge. One reason I’ve had an issue at the VA. No records to back up anything I tell them. As I understand it the history is supposed to lean in the vets favor. Not quite.

My first request for records in the mid 80's, the response was they 'may have been destroyed by fire'. My first active duty date wasn't until Jan '77. Repeated request over the next few decades went from that to 'we have no proof you even served, send us your DD214'. I finally got them in 2016 and what an incoherent mess they are. Yes, they use that to deny. It IS the official record.

8 posted on 09/20/2019 8:45:54 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Is it time Claire?)
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To: gop4lyf
My great uncle killed in WWI. All records lost. 🤬
9 posted on 09/20/2019 8:54:43 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: BlackbirdSST

I can’t remember why but I made an inquiry about my records and was told, “Fire.” I didn’t get a Commission until 1978 and didn’t go on AD and until 1990.


10 posted on 09/20/2019 9:03:46 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: US Navy Vet

My great uncles records, a US Corps of Engineers reservist who served in Bataan, were also lost in that fire. He died in the concentration camp at Cabanatuan. We don’t know what units he served in in 1941-42.
All we know was that he was called up, went to Bataan, and was on the list of remains recovered from the death camp.


11 posted on 09/20/2019 9:07:14 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: 9422WMR

My dad was severely injured in a WWI training accident and caught the Spanish Flu while recovering. His brother died after getting the Spanish Flu after he visited my dad in the hospital.

His records were ‘destroyed’ in that fire. My siblings and I would have liked to see them.

He was a VA patient for most of his life died after the fire.


12 posted on 09/20/2019 11:28:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: zerosix

Thanks for your concern. My wife and I are approaching our 58 th annivesary.

DMV would not accept our original marriage certificate signed by the minister, and others including her father.

We now have the so called legal documented marriage license and my birth certificate from the out of state counties.

First, we have to waste about an hour for each of us on line to re enter the data. We have lived in the same home with the same phone # for 40+ years and the same SS #’s since we were teens.

Then, we have to go to the DMV without an appt. Any appts are months away. Then, we will be there about 2 hours to get this new old data reentered. We may be charged for the new real licenses. If we don’t get there and get the new real licenses, the data will go out of date in 30 days. Then, we repeat the same thing again.

The DMV office will be filled with people facing the same issues and many “new comers”. Many are veterans of previous encounters with the new DMV rules.

Many senior citizen are in tears, and the DMV has asked me to help explaining this ‘CF’ to some of them, while we are waiting. The local DMV people are basically good people. I worked for free with them to get local Vets listed as Veterans on our drivers’s licenses.

Some of the really impacted are legal Hispanic citizens.

It has been funny to see some of the young Alfas ignoring the warnings, then getting blindside at the DMV. They thought that the rules didn’t apply to them.

Thanks for your concern and reply.


13 posted on 09/20/2019 11:53:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Grampa Dave
I’m assuming the “new” dmv licenses are the national driver’s licenses to which you speak. I chose not to get one when I got my license renewed, though they did tell me that my current license would not allow me to get on an airplane after a date certain.

I chose to leave it as it was as I have a passport and do not like the idea of being in a national registry, kind of like not catching illegal aliens when they are in plain sight but making us law abiding citizens prove themselves law abiding yet again!

I was especially against it as it was shoved through under Obama and now even more realizing what scum the deep state are, constantly making laws to invade our privacy when they break laws they demand us to follow them while they don’t!

Might I ask what your state is, as to why you continue to get the runaround on issues if ID confirmation?

14 posted on 09/20/2019 12:55:00 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

California.

It has gone from the laxest to get a driver’s license to probably, the toughest.

We will probably renew our passports and keep our California drivers’s licenses. They are good until 2023.

The best kept secret even before 911 was to carry/show an expired passport and a current one to TSA thugs in an airport.


15 posted on 09/20/2019 1:12:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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