Thanks colorado tanker. One of *those* topics.
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Posted on 09/16/2019 4:21:23 PM PDT by Openurmind
The Minoans and their capital Knossos weren’t incinerated by volcanic blast from Thera or flattened by quake as thought, but tellingly: their writing system changed.
The mystery of what happened to the Minoan civilization has tormented archaeologists for over a century, and the tale has now taken a new twist. Nothing happened to them, say archaeologists who have been excavating the island of Crete for over thirty years. This extraordinary people, who produced palatial architecture unparalleled in the Aegean region at the time, were not immolated by the volcanic eruption of Thera as once thought, crushed by earthquake, or squashed by Mycenaean Greece as more recently supposed. Rather, the Minoans, who had for centuries wielded influence throughout the Aegean, did experience earthquakes that rattled them, were indeed badly weakened by the volcanic blast from Thera on the nearby island of Santorini, and did experience the unamiable attentions of the mainland Greeks.
But although the two cultures appear to have struggled, over time the elite elements of both became virtually indistinguishable, after 1450 B.C.E., if not earlier. Minoan influence as such would recede and the by-then-Mycenaeanised islanders would soldier on until the great collapse of civilization around the Mediterranean Basin, around 1,200 B.C.E.
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They taxed themselves to death trying to prevent climate change.
For what it is worth, The Conquerors of Latin America wrote in their descriptions, that many in what is now Mexico City were what they called SODOMITES. They had some sort of Irish Settler that supposedly sniffed out the homosexual, and to be a GOOD priest on the pyramids, one needed to show no signs of sexual arousal about taking a heart out of a young naked maiden. When Cuahtemoc hurled the stone that was a fatal blow to his Uncle Montezuma, he cried out in Aztec language a word which today in English would have been translated QUEER. Archaelogists would do well, to consider that some of these civilizations may have gone extinct as the gender confusion was so overwhelming, they didn’t have enough Men and Women to make babies for Wars, Human Sacrifices and overcome disease and being killed by jaguars. One day in Mexico City there were 100,000 human sacrifices. The stack of skulls that is displayed today, verifies that these numbers were not exaggerated.
Minoans ping.
That must have been about the first time Bernie Sanders ran for office.
Crete has always fascinated me but as soon as I see BCE, I quit reading.
lol, then the writing changed and became “new speak”.
Or, their Liberal Population Zero was extremely effective.
Thanks colorado tanker. One of *those* topics.
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Thanks colorado tanker, nice twofer!
I think they starved from running out of avocado toast.
Mohammad’s ancestors wiped them out because they wouldn’t accept the soon-to-be-invented dhimmi status and the upcoming jizya taxes. Mad Mo’s ancestors were paving the way.
TarshishReferences to the ships of Tarshish and to a place of that name, in the Old Testament, beginning with the time of Solomon (10th century), to the time of the prophets of the 8th and 7th centuries, make me think that by this designation the Cretan navigators and Crete itself were meant. The Minoan civilization survived until the great catastrophes of the 8th century and it would be strange if it and its maritive activities remained unmentioned in the Old Testament.
by Immanuel Velikovsky
The usual explanation puts Tarshish in Spain, though other identifications are offered, like Tarsus, in Asia Minor. One of the old names for Knossos sounds like Tarshish.
CaphtorThe island Caphtor is named in the Scriptures. The usual identification is Crete, because the Keftiu bringing presents (vases) to Egyptian pharaohs are thought to be Cretans.
by Immanuel Velikovsky
I prefer Cyprus as the biblical Caphtor and the Egyptian Keftiu.
If Caphtor is not Cyprus, then the Old Testament completely omits reference to this large island close to the Syrian coast. The phonetics of the name also point to Cyprus. Separately I show that Tarshish was the name of Crete.
It seems that the Philistines arrived in Palestine from Caphtor following the catastrophe that brought there the Israelites after their wandering in the Desert.New Light On The Dark Age Of Greece, "Tarshish"...So far we have based our discussion of the identity of Tarshish on Biblical sources; but there also exists an allusion to that land in another source, a cuneiform text found about a hundred years ago at Assur on the Tigris. The text is part of the annals of the Assyrian king Esarhaddon, who ruled over Assyria from -681 to -669. It reads:
by Jan Sammer"All the kingdoms from (the islands) amidst the sea -- from the country of Iadanan and Jaman as far as Tarshishi bowed to my feet and I received heavy tribute."The identities of the first two countries mentioned by Esarhaddon are known: Iadanan is Cyprus and Iaman is the Ionian coast of Asia Minor; the location of Tarshishi, however, became the subject of some debate, for this statement by Esarhaddon is the only time the name appears in any Assyrian text. It was noted that "Tarshishi" has the determinative mãt for "country" in front of it, as do Idanana, or Cyprus and Iaman, or Ionia. The only clue to its location was its being described as a kingdom "amidst the sea", apparently somewhat farther removed from Assyria than either Cyprus or Ionia.
When Esarhaddon's text was first published and transliterated the name was read as "Nu-shi-shi." At that time there were several conjectures as to the identification of this land. The city of Nysa in Caria was one suggestion; another was that the world refers to "nesos" for Peloponnesos. In 1914 D. D. Luckenbill ventured that "Knossos, for Crete, would fit better." Three years later B. Meissner made a fresh examination of the cuneiform tablet and found that the original transliteration of the name had been mistaken, and that "Tar-shi-shi" was the correct reading. The new reading took away Luckenbill's chief reason for his identification; yet he had the right solution, even if he reached it on wrong grounds. More recent scholarship identifies the land of Tarshishi mentioned by Esarhaddon with the city of Tarsus in Cilicia. Had Tarshishi been a city the name would have been preceded by the determinative URU; however, as mentioned above, it has mãt for "country". It is also difficult to see how a place in Cilicia would fit the description "from Iadanana and Iaman as far as Tarshishi." Clearly Tarsisi was farther west than either Cyprus or Ionia. These criteria are filled admirably by Crete.
I’ve been to the Palace of Knossos on Crete. Beautiful place, laid out neatly on a small hill overlooking the countryside and coast with a 360 degree view. You look over massive, ancient olive tree groves and tilled fields that have been worked for thousands of years.
Some of the fresco colors are still vibrant even after 3000+ years.
Imagining what it looked like in its heyday... Must have been magnificent!
Yes, and it was common for Minoan women to walk around bare-breasted. They were an advanced civilization in more ways than one.
I’m not saying it was aliens but.....
Thanks!
Cool extra info Civ!
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