The writings of Lincoln are full of defense for the Founders.
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Me: The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. The Leftist Democrats did.
And yet he nibbled at the Constitution himself.
From the Brits. Fought the Dem’s to free them only to go into segregation and separate but equal under the Dem’s., and the KKK to intimidate and keep them submissive.
I’ve spent 30 years in China and 29 in America. I observed this black and white thing from start. America made 2 mistakes on slavery. 1) import totally incompatible races into their living space over some cotton trade 2) they ended slavery in a wrong way. America should have relocated slaves out of country. From my reading consensus among blacks were over 90% of blacks wanted out of America. They did not do it.
I admire Americans ingenuity. No one in the world can be compared to Americans.
But as race or ethnic group(?) they are not as wise as Chinese
Given current demographics trend, they will lose this country in just one century or so. So unfortunate. I don’t know why they seem not able to attach themselves to this land culturally and spiritually, even though they had lost so many lives over it. They never call her motherland. God, it’s f$&king tragic to see that they lose their county over some cotton trade. What a tragedy. That’s why I really despise southern whites no matter how talented or gifted they are individually
Lincoln himself was a flaming racist - even by the standards of his own day. His numerous public statements amply demonstrate this.
The Lies of the New York Times’ 1619 Project...:
A few months ago, I started posting this little historical exercise about Slavery in pre America:
Slavery was, not yet a reality, even in any British Royal American Colonies by 1619.
1619: The year, the first Endentured Africans, not slaves, were brought to Jamestown, is drilled into students’ memories, but overemphasizing this date distorts history!
1619: First Africans:
In August 1619 “20 and odd Negroes” arrived on the Dutch Man-of-War ship at Jamestown colony. This is the earliest record of Black people in colonial America.[38] These colonists were freemen and indentured servants.[39][40][41][42] At this time the slave trade between Africa and the English colonies had not yet been established.
Records from 1623 and 1624 listed the African inhabitants of the colony as servants, not slaves. In the case of William Tucker, the first Black person born in the colonies, freedom was his birthright.[43] He was son of “Antony and Isabell”, a married couple from Angola who worked as indentured servants for Captain William Tucker whom he was named after. Yet, court records show that at least one African had been declared a slave by 1640; John Punch. He was an indentured servant who ran away along with two White indentured servants and he was sentenced by the governing council to lifelong servitude. This action is what officially marked the institution of slavery in Jamestown and the future United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamestown,_Virginia_(1607–99)#1619:_First_Africans
Jamestown was not an American colony nor even a British Colony at that time, 1619.
https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/slavery
Before going to the link above, everyone, ask yourself a simple question:
I have added your summary to my history of slavery inherited by America.
In what year did the former British/American Colonies, become America/the USA and recognized by the world powers as America.
Hint, It was not in 1619.
It was 1783! America’s independence was recognized by Britain in 1783.
The Emancipation Proclamation was in 1863, 80 years after we became a recognized country.
This year,2019, will make freedom from Slavery/1863, for 156 years in America, the USA. Thanks to the The Emancipation Proclamation being declared in 1863.
The US had legal slavery for 80 years! Liberal liars scream “400 years” of slavery, and it is a complete lie.
At this point, blacks in today’s America, have been free for much longer than their ancestors were slaves! (nearly twice as long).
*How many union soldiers died to free the Slaves: - Quora:
https://www.quora.com/How-many-union-soldiers-died
*Approximately 110,000 Union Soldiers died due to battle-related causes during the Civil War. Around 250,000 died of disease. Yes, you were more likely to die of illness later than on the battlefield. The deadliest battle for both sides was the infamous Battle of Gettysburg, totaling more than 50,000 casualties.
At least 360,000 Union soldiers died from battle causes or illnesses linked to their service in the Civil War. More suffered from physical and mental wounds for most of their lives post Civil War.
Women born just before, during and after the Civil War in the battleground states often died in their 20’s to 30’s. My Dad’s mother and one of her sisters died in their late 20’s. Women in their families before and after the civil war lived into their late 70’s to 80’s.
Lincoln: The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it that way!
PGA Weblog ^
Posted on 9/2/2019, 4:35:14 PM by ProgressingAmerica
Abraham Lincoln:
Judge Douglas asks you, “Why cannot the institution of slavery, or rather, why cannot the nation, part slave and part free, continue as our fathers made it forever?” In the first place, I insist that our fathers did not make this nation half slave and half free, or part slave and part free. I insist that they found the institution of slavery existing here. They did not make it so, but they left it so because they knew of no way to get rid of it at that time.
When Judge Douglas undertakes to say that, as a matter of choice, the fathers of the Government made this nation part slave and part free, he assumes what is historically a falsehood. More than that: when the fathers of the Government cut off the source of slavery by the abolition of the slave-trade, and adopted a system of restricting it from the new Territories where it had not existed, I maintain that they placed it where they understood, and all sensible men understood, it was in the course of ultimate extinction; and when Judge Douglas asks me why it cannot continue as our fathers made it, I ask him why he and his friends could not let it remain as our fathers made it?
The Founding Fathers could not undo in just a few short years what the King spent over a century doing.
Because of the false teachings of progressivism, it has become one of the greatest of ironies that the “Great Emancipator” was also one of the most ardent defenders of the Founding Fathers - specifically on the topic of slavery.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3776122/posts
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A people who enslave another are not moral or free. One becomes bound to the other, slaver and slave in a race to the moral bottom.
Thank you. I have advocated the pre-existence of slavery essentially as Lincoln stated, and Lincoln was a lawyer who understood the legal ramifications of the law permitted slavery in the colonies just as it existed elsewhere throughout the Middle East, Africa and the entire known world. Would the British Navy have existed without the premise of false imprisonment similar to being Shanghaied? Indentured servants forfeited their freedom for passage to the new world. It took a WAR to break the legal chains of Slavery in divided America and the imposition of martial law. Because the South was defeated, it was both black and white sharecroppers who suffered well into the 40s....
The false ideology of victimhood has today began to run it’s course as competing fractions with the DNC Big Tent splinter and compete for a place - and the targeting of the White Race by the DNC is as shameful as their defeated forefathers who by yesterday’s standards legally owned other people.
If you mistreat any portion of the Agricultural chain, you forfeit profits and jeopardize the enterprise, so the commonly held belief of mistreatment of all slaves is a misnomer. That slavery was legal and something imposed by the Great Powers of Europe is not in question - that it took a mere 85 years to fix the wrong of the Divine Right of Kings of which Gen Washington rejected for himself and all presidents (except Obama), and yet 100 years to enjoin all by acts of the Congress (with the DNC dissenting), Republicans forced passage of Equal Rights and Equality for Women. Little did the Nation expect that puclent DNC to seeth and destroy the laws as envisioned and pervert society with the imposition of the mentally ill’s inclusion under LGBTect; that the Old South never Died in the Form of the DNC is not in question today.
Great stuff!
Can’t believe I’ve never read these debates. If only we could have the like now!
Yes, at the time of our founding the elimination od slavery would have meant one of two things:
A. The destruction of SC, and it’s permanent capture by England.
or
B. The voluntary accession by SC to England.
Either would result in a British harbor at Charleston and the end of any dream of an American nation.
regardless of what Jefferson did or owned and Lincoln’s motivation, the declaration says all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with inalienable right to liberty
Those of you who say somewhere in there it says EXCEPT slaves” is beyond me. Not following up does not erase the language.
Here’s Lincoln’s last Senate campaign speech in 1858. Interesting in that he states:
“Through all, I have neither assailed, nor wrestled with any part of the constitution. The legal right of the Southern people to reclaim their fugitives I have constantly admitted. The legal right of Congress to interfere with their institution in the states, I have constantly denied. In resisting the spread of slavery to new territory, and with that, what appears to me to be a tendency to subvert the first principle of free government itself my whole effort has consisted. To the best of my judgment I have labored for, and not against the Union. As I have not felt, so I have not expressed any harsh sentiment towards our Southern brethren. I have constantly declared, as I really believed, the only difference between them and us, is the difference of circumstances.”
Conciliatory I’d say.