Posted on 09/01/2019 6:10:50 AM PDT by BobL
Urging people to follow low-fat diets and to lower their cholesterol is having “disastrous health consequences”, a health charity has warned.
In a damning report that accuses major public health bodies of colluding with the food industry, the National Obesity Forum and the Public Health Collaboration call for a “major overhaul” of current dietary guidelines. They say the focus on low-fat diets is failing to address Britain’s obesity crisis, while snacking between meals is making people fat.
Instead, they call for a return to “whole foods” such as meat, fish and dairy, as well as high-fat, healthy foods including avocados, arguing: “Eating fat does not make you fat.”
The report – which has caused a huge backlash among the scientific community – also argues that saturated fat does not cause heart disease while full-fat dairy, including milk, yoghurt and cheese, can actually protect the heart.
Processed foods labelled “low fat”, “lite”, “low cholesterol” or “proven to lower cholesterol” should be avoided at all costs, and people with type 2 diabetes should eat a fat-rich diet rather than one based on carbohydrates...
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
Actually, when I think of keto, I think of NO carb.
Some carbs are good for you. They just have to be the right kind, and processed white flour and sugar are NOT it.
You are wrong. You provide the source, lame genius.
“No need to agree with Mace...He’s wrong.”
Thanks, he’s basically in agreement with me (that Keto is NOT a free pass to eat any combination of low-carb foods that one wants), he just doesn’t quite realize it yet.
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We desperately need saturated animal fats or we end up with Alzheimer’s.
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It's not about the carbs, it's about total calories. It has been that way since the beginning of time. Those guys get fat because they consume more energy than they burn, just like everyone else.
The point of Michael Phelps and the amount of food he consumed was to point out that it doesn't matter how much you eat as long as you burn it. Just like the guys who ate McDonald's for several months but lost weight due to increased exercise.
The people with the longest life expectancy on earth are also the ones with the highest per-capita consumption of carbohydrates on earth. Go figure.
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No Donuts????
Awwww..........
“Keto” is keeping your carbs so low that you always stay in ketosis.
That is typically under 25-30 grams of net carbs a day, with fiber not counting.
Our kidneys do just fine, if not already damaged from a completely different reason.
“We desperately need saturated animal fats or we end up with Alzheimer’s.”
Yea, I’ve heard that also, maybe showing up on this thread a bit, too. Imagine all the suffering that could have been avoided! It will be interesting to see if that proves out...something tells me it will, once the Special Interests can be dispensed with.
The DASH Diet Plan
The DASH diet eating plan is a diet rich in fruits, vegetables, low fat or nonfat dairy. It also includes mostly whole grains; lean meats, fish and poultry; nuts and beans. It is high fiber and low to moderate in fat. It is a plan that follows US guidelines for sodium content, along with vitamins and minerals. In addition to lowering blood pressure, the DASH eating plan lowers cholesterol and makes it easy to lose weight. It is a healthy way of eating, designed to be flexible enough to meet the lifestyle and food preferences of most people
“Our kidneys do just fine, if not already damaged from a completely different reason.”
I haven’t specifically studied it, but there is quite a bit out there regarding high protein being tough on kidneys - but probably not to the point of threatening failure (at least in otherwise healthy people).
But, I would also guess if you get it completely wrong - very high protein, low water intake, you may start to develop problems. But then again, Keto doesn’t recommend that, and neither does anyone else here...so I don’t even know why it’s being discussed.
“It (Dash) is a healthy way of eating, designed to be flexible enough to meet the lifestyle and food preferences of most people”
Feel free to start on own thread on the topic. I don’t know the relative popularity of it, nor the overall results, but (seriously) it would be a good discussion topic!
Yes, the dude is living in a one-variable world.
Dash is current diet recommended to heart attack survivors by my doctor and dietitian.
This has been proven false. People are suffering under this lie and gaining weight because when you eat less, take in less of the nutrients your body needs to survive, your body will go into survival mode, lowering the BMR. And it will start stripping your non-essential parts, such as muscle and bone. And finally, people on extreme low calorie diets can actually gain weight because the body is stressed and conserving anything above its new base needs.
Finally, doctors for >100 years have attributed extreme obesity to the consumption of unnecessary carbohydrates.
There are many examples of exceptional athletes consuming high carb diets becoming... Type 2 DIABETICS.
Carbs drive the release of insulin. Excess insulin in the blood stream leads to insulin resistance. Insulin resistance leads to Type 2 Diabetes.
I did a bit of the mixed approach to going keto. for awhile, dropping carbs like outright sugar (using diet sodas, no sugar, no pasta, no rice).
But, the reality is, if you eat >20g carbs (some people can extend this to ~50g) a day keeps you out of ketosis.
So, I was good all week, really “low carb.” But I would grab something carby on the weekends. Even with that little off “diet” swing, you never really get into ketosis long enough to reap the benefits.
Once that reality hit, I stopped cold turkey. I don’t even think about carbs now six months later. Give me a cheese stick and some lunch meat, something fat and salty for a snack, and just a little bit lasts for hours and hours. No mid-afternoon low blood sugar energy crashes.
This is a debunked study based on cherry picked data. This is not true. The people with the longest life expectancies actually eat high fat/low carb ratio diets.
The DASH diet will be deadly.
High carb
Low fat
low sodium.
The insulin business is BIG money...
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