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Trump says he is seriously looking at ending birthright citizenship
Reuters ^
| 08-21-19
| Jeff Mason
Posted on 08/21/2019 10:23:03 AM PDT by Monrose72
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To: RummyChick
"It appears he thinks he can do it by Executive Order" It does. He's wrong.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:36:50 AM PDT
by
mlo
To: Monrose72
This is why I voted for President Trump and will do it again. Everything President Trump has been doing on illegal immigration the weak sucks of the GOPe could have done long before now. The GOPe was all talk while they shouted out lies while taking bribes from the Kochs and other exploiters of cheap labor. I hope that Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, and their co-conspirators rot in hell.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:36:50 AM PDT
by
wildcard_redneck
(Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
To: Conserv
And John Roberts, but that might be redundant.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:37:14 AM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
To: mlo
It is “assumed” law, not “settled” law.
To: Lurkinanloomin
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:38:19 AM PDT
by
RummyChick
("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
To: Monrose72
To: RummyChick
It appears he thinks he can do it by Executive Order
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Yea that’s not gonna cut it. Was hoping he was looking into how to do it correctly (i.e. amendment)
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:38:51 AM PDT
by
walkingdead
(By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
To: 1Old Pro
Read the XIV amendment to the Constitution. To end birth right citizenship, you must alter the wording of this amendment. That means a formal amendment to change or override the XIV Amendment to the Constitution.
To: Bull Snipe
“Wish him all the luck. But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizen.”
Not true. If you look at the 14th Amendment closely it does not grant birthright citizenship and its authors clearly stated so in congressional debat that is on the record and the Supreme Court has and must continue to give weight to those statements.
If President Trump changes policy and is sued over it there is a chance that the Supreme Court could decide in his favor.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:41:44 AM PDT
by
wildcard_redneck
(Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
To: Andy from Chapel Hill
"It is assumed law, not settled law." No it is settled. It's the plain language of the text. Do you also think a president can redefine the 2nd amendment through an executive order?
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:42:04 AM PDT
by
mlo
To: Bull Snipe
Perhaps there is a way with SCOTUS.
But he would need another Judge. Roberts is a traitor
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:42:16 AM PDT
by
RummyChick
("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
To: RummyChick
My guess is that it would take a major effort and require changing the 14th amendment.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
That's a bit of a sticky wicket.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:42:34 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
To: wildcard_redneck
I think that is what he is going for...get it before SCOTUS.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:43:04 AM PDT
by
RummyChick
("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
To: mlo
“He has no power to change this, other than asking Congress to propose a constitutional amendment.”
Look at you roll over, how cute.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:43:25 AM PDT
by
wildcard_redneck
(Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Nope. SCOTUS could do it.
They were the ones that granted it.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:43:51 AM PDT
by
RummyChick
("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
To: wildcard_redneck
There are lots more still in office.
Alexander, Graham, McSally, Murkowsky, Hoeven, Rubio, Tillis, Burr, Lankford, Gardner, Cornyn, Hyde-Smith, Collins, Sasse, Kennedy, Shelby, Ernst, Blunt, McConnell, Wicker, Portman, Isakson, Johnson, Toomey, Rounds, Thune, Gaines, Barasso and Enzi are all Bush League Republicans.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:44:42 AM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Re:32 - Agreed that the plain reading of the 14th Amendment seems plain.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:46:17 AM PDT
by
Fury
To: RummyChick
To: Bull Snipe
Nope.
Just overturn the dicta on one Supreme Court ruling.
There is nothing in the Constitution that says anybody born here is a automatic citizen.
Just as there is nothing about a "wall between church and state" and a bunch of other things they love to add in.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:46:32 AM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
To: Bull Snipe
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they resideIllegals don't "reside" anywhere except their home countries.
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posted on
08/21/2019 10:47:18 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
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