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Call Me ‘They’: The singular “they” is inclusive and flexible, and it breaks the stifling [tr]
NY Times ^ | July 10, 2019 | Farhad Manjoo

Posted on 07/14/2019 5:37:00 AM PDT by C19fan

I am your stereotypical, cisgender, middle-aged suburban dad. I dabble in woodworking, I take out the garbage, and I covet my neighbor’s Porsche. Though I do think men should wear makeup (it looks nice!), my tepid masculinity apparently rings loudly enough online and in person that most people guess that I go by “he” and “him.” And that’s fine; I will not be offended if you refer to me by those traditional, uselessly gendered pronouns.

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To: C19fan

Though I do think men should wear makeup...

I stopped reading right here. Please stay in New York. They deserve you.


21 posted on 07/14/2019 6:12:02 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: C19fan

Do you ever wonder how many hits on the NYT’s website are attributable to the FR? And I can imagine how they clap their hands and squeal with delight when they think they’re really connecting with the unwashed masses. Just thinkin’ out loud...


22 posted on 07/14/2019 6:12:10 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

“It” is certainly a good choice.

But I suggest that any man who wears makeup ought to be called “she.” Which is probably what they would like to be anyway.


23 posted on 07/14/2019 6:18:04 AM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: skams19

I wonder how all this “they” stuff works in languages like German and French where gender is necessary to describing the world?


24 posted on 07/14/2019 6:33:37 AM PDT by poconopundit (Will Kamel Harass pay reparations? Her ancestors were black Slave Owners in Jamaica.)
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To: C19fan

I feel sorry for his wife.


25 posted on 07/14/2019 6:34:30 AM PDT by Jemian (Walls work and Walls Save Lives.)
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To: C19fan

It won’t be very long before the LGBTQ crowd will demand that children be given names at birth that would work for either sex. Like Pat, Jan, Terry, Jean, Bobby, etc. So the child could make up his/her mind which “they” wanted to be without pressure of the inconvenient name. A boy named Sue would have a rough time of it.

Or maybe even give them 2 names at birth, one for each sex. And let them choose later. There’s no end to this madness.


26 posted on 07/14/2019 6:38:01 AM PDT by bigred44
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To: I want the USA back

“The moment someone uses the “wrong” pronoun, the fascist police swoop down and arrest him.“

That’s the whole point.

L


27 posted on 07/14/2019 6:45:49 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: C19fan

He is NOT the stereotypical cisgendered male. Not even close.


28 posted on 07/14/2019 6:48:24 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: C19fan

I think the “person” claiming to be the author of the text, with all the personality attributes he claims to have, is a fiction, either created by the writer alone or via a group edit. I think they invented the person the voice in the article is supposed to be.


29 posted on 07/14/2019 6:51:19 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: C19fan
Him...her...he...she.That's as far as I'll go.

But if this goes on much longer I might begin to use "it" and "that".

30 posted on 07/14/2019 6:53:11 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Comey,Brennan and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: C19fan

“It” works perfectly for me. It’s non-gender.


31 posted on 07/14/2019 6:55:07 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: C19fan
Ha! I want to this confused person’s Wikipedia page and there he is referred to as if he was Sybil. I’m going to believe he is mentally unfit, and anticipate at some point, some type of breakdown.
32 posted on 07/14/2019 6:55:11 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: C19fan
Though I do think men should wear makeup (it looks nice!)

Yup. This statement goes along quite nicely with a name like Farhad Manjoo.

Ironically Starbucks has now banned newspapers.

33 posted on 07/14/2019 6:58:23 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: C19fan
Might I suggest "She-It"?
34 posted on 07/14/2019 7:00:16 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: C19fan

What happens when “non-binary” language meets ebonics? Just wondering.


35 posted on 07/14/2019 7:01:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: C19fan

Oh, and while Manjoo claims to be ‘cisgendered’ I believe they is gay. Queer as a they-dollar bill.


36 posted on 07/14/2019 7:01:32 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: C19fan

My new pronoun is Quatl.

Him = Quatl.
His = Quatloo.
He = Qua.

If you refuse to refer to me with my correct pronoun, I shall report you to the Language Fascists.


37 posted on 07/14/2019 7:03:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: C19fan

There are two sexes.

Simple biology, you don’t reject science, do you?


38 posted on 07/14/2019 7:23:27 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: I want the USA back

The best solution,or rather palliative, for this foolishness is to adopt a foreign word, as usual in English.

There are lots of genderless languages. Most of Southeast Asia for instance speaks some Austronesian tongue, which are all genderless.

In the US the most widely spoken of these is Tagalog (Filipino). The personal pronoun is “siya”, plural “sila”. It is proper to go borrow that word.

Looking deeper, the idea that a genderless language changes the concept of gender in a society is easily disproven by taking a look at societies that use genderless languages.


39 posted on 07/14/2019 7:24:31 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: C19fan
Though I do think men should wear makeup (it looks nice!),

Faggot ...

40 posted on 07/14/2019 7:27:34 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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