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One giant ... lie? Why so many people still think the moon landings were faked
The Guardian ^ | 07-10-2019 | Richard Godwin

Posted on 07/10/2019 10:21:39 AM PDT by NRx

It took 400,000 Nasa employees and contractors to put Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the moon in 1969 – but only one man to spread the idea that it was all a hoax. His name was Bill Kaysing.

It began as “a hunch, an intuition”, before turning into “a true conviction” – that the US lacked the technical prowess to make it to the moon (or, at least, to the moon and back). Kaysing had actually contributed to the US space programme, albeit tenuously: between 1956 and 1963, he was an employee of Rocketdyne, a company that helped to design the Saturn V rocket engines. In 1976, he self-published a pamphlet called We Never Went to the Moon: America’s Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle, which sought evidence for his conviction by means of grainy photocopies and ludicrous theories. Yet somehow he established a few perennials that are kept alive to this day in Hollywood movies and Fox News documentaries, Reddit forums and YouTube channels.

Despite the extraordinary volume of evidence (including 382kg of moon rock collected across six missions; corroboration from Russia, Japan and China; and images from the Nasa Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter showing the tracks made by the astronauts in the moondust), belief in the moon-hoax conspiracy has blossomed since 1969. Among 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, chemtrailers, flat-Earthers, Holocaust deniers and Sandy Hook conspiracists, the idea that the moon landings were faked isn’t even a source of anger any more – it is just a given fact.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; antivaxxers; apollo11; billkaysing; chemtrailers; fakenews; flatearthers; grauniad; holocaustdenial; kaysing; moonlanding; sandyhookparanoia
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To: Boogieman
Exactly and if it were faked, all those Saturn 5 laucnhes were faked too? Those weren't real rockets launches, they were a bigger version of those stupid Marionette Puppet toys from “Captain Scarlet’’.
61 posted on 07/10/2019 11:40:30 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: C210N
I read some of the moon-denial material with an open mind, and came to a couple of conclusions.

First, we went to the moon.

Second, there's a concerted effort, and not just by nutballs, to perpetrate the "we didn't go to the moon" belief.

Everything we watch in the media is a "show." Part of what's happening now seems to be a concerted effort to make people crazy, to get them to bite each other without thinking. Some of these guys really believe it, but some of them are paid operatives.

62 posted on 07/10/2019 11:43:08 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: al_c
Just took a vacation to Florida that included a day at Kennedy Space Center. So much nerd fun! Walking along the Saturn V display was amazing. And the Atlantis shuttle ... absolutely breath-taking.

We have been there many times. Amazing also is the control room completely restored with original equipment.

Really miss the shuttle return with the double sonic boom. Still watch launches from or back yard.

63 posted on 07/10/2019 11:49:45 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Berosus
Seems like a lot of work to go through to "fake the Moon landings", eh?

64 posted on 07/10/2019 11:51:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: circlecity
I you have a good telescope, can you see items that we left behind on the moon? (ie. flag, rover, etc.)

Only if you can take that "good telescope" to the moon, and view these items from the surface or lunar orbit. No telescope is going to view them from earth. Even the Hubble can't resolve them.

65 posted on 07/10/2019 11:52:29 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: NRx

It makes people of limited intelligence and few accomplishments feel big to think they’ve got the inside line on the “truth” about something that they never could have had any part in.


66 posted on 07/10/2019 11:54:16 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The alien moonbase on the dark side complained. Heh.


67 posted on 07/10/2019 11:57:10 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: bantam

“I always wondered where the ground based telescope pics of the landing site were/are??
Are there any?”

The moon is a quarter million miles away. Even without the atmosphere in the way, the optics don’t exist (and probably can’t) that can resolve anything as small as the landing site and the artifacts (and tracks, etc) left behind from that distance.


68 posted on 07/10/2019 11:58:58 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: kosciusko51

We used to have a Flat-Earther or two, as well; but I haven’t seen them in a while.


69 posted on 07/10/2019 11:59:25 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: NRx

The moon landings were fake and so were automobiles.

The automobile was never invented.

Sorry to break the bad news. I have a bicycle trip coming up.


70 posted on 07/10/2019 12:02:03 PM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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To: N. Theknow
We have been there many times. Amazing also is the control room completely restored with original equipment.

Yes! Very cool experience.

Really miss the shuttle return with the double sonic boom. Still watch launches from or back yard.

No doubt!

My first trip there, a shuttle was scheduled to launch. It got scrubbed. This recent visit, there was a rocket launch scheduled ... scrubbed. We were hoping the Falcon Heavy would be delayed by a couple of days so we could see it, but that didn't happen. Bummer.

71 posted on 07/10/2019 12:04:07 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: -YYZ-
The moon is a quarter million miles away. Even without the atmosphere in the way, the optics don’t exist (and probably can’t) that can resolve anything as small as the landing site and the artifacts (and tracks, etc) left behind from that distance.

This is about as close as I've seen so far.

72 posted on 07/10/2019 12:06:13 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: NRx

I have a buddy who is very intelligent YET will spout non-stop about chem-trails, HAARP, Fluoride in the water, depleted uranium used during the Gulf War, 9/11 was an inside job, Sandy Hook false Flags, Boston Marathon Crisis Actors etc etc etc.....

The Chem-trail crap really gets me.
Apparently thousands of aircraft take off every single day to coat the atmosphere and earth with some yet unknown substance, some say it’s aluminum based but yet somehow it’s totally kept secret....kinda like the moon landing fake.
Many say the chem-trails are meant to control the weather others say it’s meant to control us.
He loves to point out which clouds in the sky are real and which are chem.
unbelievable...


73 posted on 07/10/2019 12:06:29 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: -YYZ-

There’s pictures of Apollo spacecrafts in transit from earth-to-moon and back. Pictures by institutional astronomers & amateurs but that’s the best you’re going to do. 50,000 miles is the furthest out I remember.


74 posted on 07/10/2019 12:06:49 PM PDT by Reily
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To: -YYZ-

Follow up: But these are not from a telescope on the earth.


75 posted on 07/10/2019 12:08:00 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: mowowie

Is your friend’s name Dale Gribble?


76 posted on 07/10/2019 12:08:34 PM PDT by Reily
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To: ETCM; circlecity
Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter pix of Apollo sites
77 posted on 07/10/2019 12:09:00 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: mowowie

I had a likewise rational, logical, intelligent friend who was immersed in Tesla. He tried to convince me that sound is on the electro-magnetic spectrum, among other nonsense.


78 posted on 07/10/2019 12:11:31 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

I have a professor friend who for awhile was president of the Tesla Society. He was constantly fighting off all kind of nonsense about Tesla. Your example is one of 100s!


79 posted on 07/10/2019 12:14:51 PM PDT by Reily
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To: NRx

Ask Whoopi Goldberg. That’s how she spent the 40th anniversary, talking up ‘faked’ rumors.


80 posted on 07/10/2019 12:17:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (TDenounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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